Dear Steve: I apologize if my ranting offended you. I have not slept for the past two days courtesy poor packaging from Oracle Corporation. We have Jboss(www.jboss.org) to compare with Oracle Application Server. I do not know if you have experience with both. If you have detailed exposure to both, you would agree that choosing Oracle Application Server over Jboss is not a smart thing. During installation when you have to change disks, Oracle Installer does not release the CDROM device. You have to install from the hard-drive. Please note that I did not use a word like "brain dead" this time. That would be ranting. Regarding your response, I am mildly surprised at the uncanny similarity between your thoughts and what Oracle marketing has to say about this issue. You may also note that Oracle Database 10g installed on the "unsupported" version of Linux without a hitch. I wonder what is "unsupported" Linux. Does RedHat has its own "supported" Linux? Once again I apologize for my ranting. My recent experience is fritingly similar to what happened when Solaris came along. These were the same language that we heard as to why it was imperative for certain software to run on "supported" Unix like Solaris and not on the Berkeley Unix. Regards. Ravi Verma 0019167053261 -----Original Message----- From: redhat-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:redhat-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 1:38 PM To: redhat-list@xxxxxxxxxx Cc: lug-nuts@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Fate of RedHat On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Ravi Verma wrote: > Dear Friends: > [ fanatical rant snipped ] Possibly is is so that Oracle (who's market is not the general home user or small business, but rather the larger business sector) can ensure that their software will be installed on a system that they know will have support from another commercial entity. While it will not be foolproof - it will mean that if something is found to be an OS bug then Oracle can say to the customer "I would suggest that you take this up with your OS vendor to fix" and leave it at that instead of getting into the OS market and having to release "Oracle patches" to the customers OS. If you dont like it - then use another database product, switch to debian, go the unsupported route, but ranting like this just shows your lack of understanding of the requirements of the larger business sector and how they differ from smaller organisations. Complaining to the redhat mailing list is probably not going to get any of your issues solved. At least the larger corporates like Oracle have started to recognise that Linux is a viable OS and has reached maturity - and are supporting it as best they know how - who knows, if other Linux OS vendors prove to have a stable and _supported_ (read: commercially) platform then you may find that these get Oracle ports as well - and this in turn leads to the ability to run it on unsupported linux distributions as well. As linux advocates we should be thankful for this, it shows that we are doign things right and that we are getting the word out there. Give the market time and be thankful in the fact that we are further along and have more commercial support than we did 13 years ago. Ranting like this really achieves nothing except to show your lack of understanding. -- Steve. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
