ext3: 40 sec i/o hesitations with data=journal

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2.4.20-28.7 kernel.  ext3: 384Meg journal data=journal. 

We run large journal sizes and sometimes see a few seconds of 
hesitation when it is flushed. We can and do optimize by tweaking 
bdflush times (down)on our servers....but 

We have one interesting case that is defiant or is exhibiting some 
other journal problem (then flush) where we are seeing a huge 
hesitation (40 seconds) of i/o block. The hesitation happens aprox 7 
times a day, and is consistantly 40 seconds and consistantly 
(according to iostat) in a write "storm" of about 60Megs across the 40 
seconds (60 Megs in 40 secs is not exactly a storm). 

If this was a journal flush would'nt I expect 384Megs (the actual size 
of this particular journal) writing out? Nothing is writing to the 
disk, so it has to be the journal, but what it is doing if not 
flushing? 

I have set it to data=ordered and the 40 second hesitation goes away 
100%. We most often write to the middle of a file (without recreating 
the file) so data=journal should be our choice (from what I gather). 


Paul M Meyers
Systems Administrator
Community Computer Service
(315)-255-0900


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