Also, if anyone would like a great utility for keeping a system up to date go to www.ximian.com and check out Red Carpet. I love it. It works better than Up2date (my own opinion). With the free version you have to run it when you think you need to check for updates and things like that. Wade -----Original Message----- From: redhat-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:redhat-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wade Chandler Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 10:15 PM To: redhat-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Thoughts on Fedora I don't agree with the notion that some how Fedora is going to be any less stable than the "free" RH9 many use on this list now. If you believe that RH will base it's commercial product on a "release" of Fedora, then you should also believe that they are going to actually use the source code from Fedora for those products as well. I doubt seriously that they are going to be taking their commercial product and doing much more than adding some nice value adds to Fedora. The Fedora project is actually making RH more open to general developers. So, now anyone can contribute, get involved, and one day (if their coding is good) become active in the source with checkin capability. Same way Netbeans and other projects work. I use Netbeans for commercial work all the time. Love it. This is the same senario Sun uses for their Sun ONE Studio. They have Netbeans out there in the open source world for free. They then take those releases, put in some value adds and a few looks here and there, then stamp Sun ONE Studio on it, and call it a product. Look for the same in Fedora. What other open source projects (products) do people on this list use for commercial applications? I'm willing to bet you use them all the time. Look at Sendmail for instance. People set that guy up on machines all day long. Same with BIND. Does anyone assume they are any different on any other platform, or are they a "release" from the sendmail group just compiled by somebody else? Who uses PERL or SED or AWK? What about MySQL or PostgreSQL? Anyone ever heard of Apache? Think about it. Wade -----Original Message----- From: redhat-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:redhat-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Lasman Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 12:50 PM To: redhat-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Thoughts on Fedora On Saturday 25 October 2003 00:01, Thomas Smith wrote: > Check out the links above. It appears that Red Hat is dumping their > OpenSource version of "Red Hat Linux" and renaming it Fedora and > stating that it's for "Developer or highly technical enthusiast using > Linux in non-critical computing environments". That's Red Hat's official opinion. In my opinion, Red Hat's opinion is based on their need and desire to sell their commercial product. You'll find a very different opinion on the Fedora list, especially in response to a thread I contributed to with the subject of "CNET News Article". > I'd like to get some opinions regarding Fedora and its viability in a > production environment. It sounds to me that Red Hat is simply using > Fedora as a test bed and developer release for its commercial-only Red > Hat Linux offerings. While I have real concerns about using Fedora in commercial applications, I believe they may just be overcome in time. In the meantime, the Fedora Legacy group has committed to maintaining RHL 7.3 into the future, and that's what I'm sticking with for now. Jeff -- Jeff Lasman, nobaloney.net, P. O. Box 52672, Riverside, CA 92517 US Professional Internet Services & Support / Consulting / Colocation Our blists address used on lists is for list email only Phone +1 909 324-9706, or see: "http://www.nobaloney.net/contactus.html" -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list