Re: Taking page faults in RCU critical sections

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On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 7:58 PM Joel Fernandes <joel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
[...]
> > > Last question, do I need the -rt kernel for preempt RCU?
> >
> > No, CONFIG_PREEMPT=y suffices.
> >
> > Note that CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT=y, AKA -rt, also makes spinlocks (but not
> > raw spinlocks) be limited sleeplocks, and thus allows RCU read-side
> > critical sections to block when acquiring these sleeping "spinlocks".
> > But this is OK, because all of this is still subject to priority boosting.
>
> Should PREEMPT_RT kernels not throw warnings though when calling
> rcu_note_context_switch() in RCU read-side sections?
>
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h#n331
>
> I don't run a PREEMPT_RT kernel myself so I can't confirm if these
> warnings somehow don't appear, but I figured it would be good to
> double check in this discussion.

Please ignore my noise, Steven clarified for me in a meeting today
that preempt != 0 in that warning, when an a
"spinlock-coverted-to-rtmutex for PREEMPT_RT" blocks. So even though
the rtmutex blocks in an RCU read-side critical section.

In other words, I believe rtmutex is the exception -- It can block in
an RCU read-side critical section on any kernel (PREEMPT_RT or
otherwise). I could stand corrected though but that's my current
understanding.

thanks,

 - Joel





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