Re: Observation on NOHZ_FULL

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On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 05:47:39PM +0000, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> Something caught my eye in [1] which a colleague pointed me to
>  - CONFIG_HZ=1000 : 14866.05 bogo ops/s
>  - CONFIG_HZ=1000+nohz_full : 18505.52 bogo ops/s
> 
> The test in concern is:
> stress-ng --matrix $(getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN) --timeout 5m --metrics-brief
> 
> which is a CPU intensive test.
> 
> Any thoughts on what else can attribute a 30% performance increase
> versus non-nohz_full ? (Confession: No idea if the baseline is
> nohz_idle or no nohz at all). If it is 30%, I may want to evaluate
> nohz_full on some of our limited-CPU devices :)

The usual questions.  ;-)

Is this repeatable?  Is it under the same conditions of temperature,
load, and so on?  Was it running on bare metal or on a guest OS?  If on a
guest OS, what was the load from other guest OSes on the same hypervisor
or on the hypervisor itself?

The bug report ad "CONFIG_HZ=250 : 17415.60 bogo ops/s", which makes
me wonder if someone enabled some heavy debug that is greatly
increasing the overhead of the scheduling-clock interrupt.

Now, if that was the case, I would expect the 250HZ number to have
three-quarters of the improvement of the nohz_full number compared
to the 1000HZ number:

17415.60-14866.05=2549.55
18505.52-14866.05=3639.47

2549.55/3639.47=0.70

OK, 0.70 is not *that* far off of 0.75.  So what debugging does that
test have enabled?  Also, if you use tracing (or whatever) to measure
the typical duration of the scheduling-clock interrupt and related things
like softirq handlers, does it fit with these numbers?  Such a measurment
would look at how long it took to get back into userspace.

I will let you do the algebra to work out the expected duration that
would be consistent with this hypothesis.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul

> Cheers,
> 
>  - Joel
> 
> [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/2051342




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