On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 at 01:33, Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > rcu/stall: Stall detection updates. Introduce RCU CPU Stall notifiers > that allows a subsystem to provide informations to help debugging. > Also cure some false positive stalls. I absolutely detest this stall notifier thing. Putting the stall notifier before the stall message does not "help debugging". Quite the reverse. It ends up being a lovely way to make sure that the debug message is never printed, because there's some entirely untested - and thus buggy - notifier on the chain before the printout from the actual stall code. I've pulled this, but I really want to voice my objection against these kinds of "debugging aids". I have personally spent way too many hours debugging a dead machine because some "debug aid" ended up being untested garbage. If you absolutely think that this is a worthy and useful thing to do, then at the very least make sure that these "debug aids" will always come *after* the core output, and can't make things horrendously worse. But in general, think twice before adding "maybe somebody else wants to print debug info". Because unless you have a really really REALLY good reason for it, it's more likely to hurt than to help. Right now I see no users of this except for the rcu torture code, and it certainly doesn't seem hugely important there. And so I'm wondering what the actual real use-case would be. Linus