Re: [PATCH v1] rcu: Fix and improve RCU read lock checks when !CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC

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On 2023/7/14 21:42, Joel Fernandes wrote:
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 11:17 PM Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On 2023/7/14 10:16, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 09:33:35AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 11:33:24AM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:

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>From what Sandeep described, the code path is in an RCU reader. My
question is more, why doesn't it use SRCU instead since it clearly
does so if BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING. What are the tradeoffs? IMHO, a deeper
dive needs to be made into that before concluding that the fix is to
use rcu_read_lock_any_held().

How can this be solved?

1.   Always use a workqueue.  Simple, but is said to have performance
      issues.

2.   Pass a flag in that indicates whether or not the caller is in an
      RCU read-side critical section.  Conceptually simple, but might
      or might not be reasonable to actually implement in the code as
      it exists now.  (You tell me!)

3.   Create a function in z_erofs that gives you a decent
      approximation, maybe something like the following.

4.   Other ideas here.

5.    #3 plus make the corresponding Kconfig option select
       PREEMPT_COUNT, assuming that any users needing compression in
       non-preemptible kernels are OK with PREEMPT_COUNT being set.
       (Some users of non-preemptible kernels object strenuously
       to the added overhead from CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT=y.)

I'm not sure if it's a good idea

I think it is a fine idea.

we need to work on
CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT=n (why not?), we could just always trigger a
workqueue for this.


So CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT=n users don't deserve good performance? ;-)

I'm not sure if non-preemptible kernel users really care about
such sensitive latencies, I don't know, my 2 cents.

Thanks,
Gao Xiang


thanks,

  - Joel



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