On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 07:06:57PM +0000, Joel Fernandes wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 7:01 PM Mathieu Desnoyers > <mathieu.desnoyers@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On 2022-12-20 13:29, Joel Fernandes wrote: > > > > > > > > I do want to finish my memory barrier studies of SRCU over the holidays since I have been deep in the hole with that already. Back to the post flip memory barrier here since I think now even that might not be needed… > > > > I strongly suspect the memory barrier after flip is useless for the same > > reasons I mentioned explaining why the barrier before the flip is useless. > > > > However, we need to double-check that we have memory barriers at the > > beginning and end of synchronize_srcu, and between load of "unlock" > > counters and load of "lock" counters. > > > > Where is the barrier at the beginning of synchronize_srcu ? > > I believe we don't need another memory barrier at the beginning of > synchronize_srcu() (but this part of my SRCU study is still pending > ;)) . The grace period guarantee (read-side critical sections don't > span the GP) is already enforced by the memory barrier between > scanning for all unlocks, and scanning for all locks (Paired with > corresponding memory barriers on the read-side). > > Accordingly, before we scan all locks and match lock == unlock, there > is an smp_mb(). Why is that not sufficient? That's not enough, you still need a barrier between the updater's pre-GP accesses and the scans, so that post-GP read side sees the updater's pre-GP accesses: UPDATER READER ------- ------ WRITE A WRITE srcu_read_lock smp_mb() //rcu_seq_snap() smp_mb() READ srcu_read_lock //scans READ A Thanks. > > Thanks, > > - Joel > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mathieu > > > > -- > > Mathieu Desnoyers > > EfficiOS Inc. > > https://www.efficios.com > >