On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 09:20:08AM -0500, Joel Fernandes wrote: > > On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:07 AM, Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 08:44:40AM -0500, Joel Fernandes wrote: > >>> C w-depend-r > >>> > >>> { > >>> PLOCK=LOCK0; > >>> } > >>> > >>> // updater > >>> P0(int *LOCK1, int **PLOCK) > >>> { > >>> int lock1; > >>> > >>> lock1 = READ_ONCE(*LOCK1); // READ from inactive idx > >>> smp_mb(); > >>> WRITE_ONCE(*PLOCK, LOCK1); // Flip idx > >>> } > >>> > >>> // reader > >>> P1(int **PLOCK) > >>> { > >>> int *plock; > >>> > >>> plock = READ_ONCE(*PLOCK); // Read active idx > >>> WRITE_ONCE(*plock, 1); // Write to active idx > >> > >> I am a bit lost here, why would the reader want to write to the active idx? > >> The reader does not update the idx, only the lock count. > > > > So &ssp->sda->srcu_lock_count is the base address and idx is the offset, right? > > The write is then displayed that way: > > > > this_cpu_inc(ssp->sda->srcu_lock_count[idx].counter); > > > > But things could be also thought the other way around with idx being the base address and > > ssp->sda->srcu_lock_count being the offset. > > > > this_cpu_inc(idx[ssp->sda->srcu_lock_count].counter); > > > > That would require to change some high level types but the result would be the same from > > the memory point of view (and even from the ASM point of view). In the end we > > are dealing with the same address and access. > > > > Now ssp->sda->srcu_lock_count is a constant address value. It doesn't change. > > So it can be zero for example. Then the above increment becomes: > > > > this_cpu_inc(idx.counter); > > > > And then it can be modelized as in the above litmus test. > > > > I had to play that trick because litmus doesn't support arrays but I believe > > it stands. Now of course I may well have got something wrong since I've always > > been terrible at maths... > > Ah ok, I get where you were going with that. Yes there is address dependency > between reading idx and writing lock count. But IMHO, the access on the update > side is trying to order write to index, and reads from a lock count of a > previous index (as far as E / B+C is concerned). So IMHO, on the read side you > have to consider 2 consecutive readers and not the same reader in order to > pair the same accesses correctly. But I could be missing something. And you're right, for the first part of the comment (let's call that (1)): * Ensure that if this updater saw a given reader's increment * from __srcu_read_lock(), that reader was using an old value * of ->srcu_idx. My litmus test shows the ordering displayed in the second part of the comment (call it (2)): * Also ensure that if a given reader sees the * new value of ->srcu_idx, this updater's earlier scans cannot * have seen that reader's increments (which is OK, because this * grace period need not wait on that reader). _ In (1), E indeed pairs with B and C _ In (2), E pairs with the address-dependency between idx and lock_count. Thanks.