Re: SRCU use from different contexts

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On Wed 23-11-22 16:21:28, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 12:46:45PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > Hello!
> > 
> > We were pondering with Amir about some issues with fsnotify subsystem and
> > as a building block we would need a mechanism to make sure write(2) has
> > completed. For simplicity we could imagine it like a sequence
> > 
> > write(2)
> >   START
> >   do stuff to perform write
> >   END
> > 
> > and we need a mechanism to wait for all processes that already passed START
> > to reach END. Ideally without blocking new writes while we wait for the
> > pending ones. Now this seems like a good task for SRCU. We could do:
> > 
> > write(2)
> >   srcu_read_lock(&sb->s_write_rcu);
> >   do stuff to perform write
> >   srcu_read_unlock(&sb->s_write_rcu);
> > 
> > and use synchronize_srcu(&sb->s_write_rcu) for waiting.
> > 
> > But the trouble with writes is there are things like aio or io_uring where
> > the part with srcu_read_lock() happens from one task (the submitter) while
> > the part with srcu_read_unlock() happens from another context (usually worker
> > thread triggered by IRQ reporting that the HW has finished the IO).
> > 
> > Is there any chance to make SRCU work in a situation like this? It seems to
> > me in principle it should be possible to make this work but maybe there are
> > some implementation constraints I'm missing... 
> 
> The srcu_read_lock_notrace() and srcu_read_unlock_notrace() functions
> will work for this, though that is not their intended purpose.  Plus you
> might want to trace these functions, which, as their names indicate, is
> not permitted.  I assume that you do not intend to use these functions
> from NMI handlers, though that really could be accommodated.  (But why
> would you need that?)
> 
> So how about srcu_down_read() and srcu_up_read(), as shown in the
> (untested) patch below?

Great, that looks exactly like what we need! Thanks for the quick reply!

> Note that you do still need to pass the return value from srcu_down_read()
> into srcu_up_read().  I am guessing that io_uring has a convenient place
> that this value can be placed.  No idea about aio.

Sure, we know about the need to pass the return value but we can handle
that :)

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxxx>
SUSE Labs, CR



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