> On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 08:36:00PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote: > > Hello, > > > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 6:51 PM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > call_rcu() changes to save power will slow down RCU workqueue items > > > queued via queue_rcu_work(). This may not be an issue, however we cannot > > > assume that workqueue users are OK with long delays. Use > > > call_rcu_flush() API instead which reverts to the old behavio > > > > On ChromeOS, I can see that queue_rcu_work() is pretty noisy and the > > batching is much better if we can just keep it as call_rcu() instead > > of call_rcu_flush(). > > > > Is there really any reason to keep it as call_rcu_flush() ? If I > > recall, the real reason Vlad's system was slowing down was because of > > scsi and the queue_rcu_work() conversion was really a red herring. > <snip> *** drivers/acpi/osl.c: acpi_os_drop_map_ref[401] queue_rcu_work(system_wq, &map->track.rwork); *** drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_execlists_submission.c: virtual_context_destroy[3653] queue_rcu_work(system_wq, &ve->rcu); *** fs/aio.c: free_ioctx_reqs[632] queue_rcu_work(system_wq, &ctx->free_rwork); *** fs/fs-writeback.c: inode_switch_wbs[604] queue_rcu_work(isw_wq, &isw->work); cleanup_offline_cgwb[676] queue_rcu_work(isw_wq, &isw->work); *** include/linux/workqueue.h: __printf[446] extern bool queue_rcu_work(struct workqueue_struct *wq, struct rcu_work *rwork); *** kernel/cgroup/cgroup.c: css_release_work_fn[5253] queue_rcu_work(cgroup_destroy_wq, &css->destroy_rwork); css_create[5384] queue_rcu_work(cgroup_destroy_wq, &css->destroy_rwork); *** kernel/rcu/tree.c: kfree_rcu_monitor[3192] queue_rcu_work(system_wq, &krwp->rcu_work); *** net/core/skmsg.c: sk_psock_drop[852] queue_rcu_work(system_wq, &psock->rwork); *** net/sched/act_ct.c: tcf_ct_flow_table_put[355] queue_rcu_work(act_ct_wq, &ct_ft->rwork); *** net/sched/cls_api.c: tcf_queue_work[225] return queue_rcu_work(tc_filter_wq, rwork); <snip> There are 9 users of the queue_rcu_work() functions. I think there can be a side effect if we keep it as lazy variant. Please note that i have not checked all those users. > There are less than 20 invocations of queue_rcu_work(), so it should > be possible look through each. The low-risk approach is of course to > have queue_rcu_work() use call_rcu_flush(). > > The next approach might be to have a Kconfig option and/or kernel > boot parameter that allowed a per-system choice. > > But it would not hurt to double-check on Android. > I did not see such noise but i will come back some data on 5.10 kernel today. > > > Vlad, any thoughts? > > At least for the kvfree_rcu() i would like to keep the sync variant, because we have the below patch that improves bathing: <snip> commit 51824b780b719c53113dc39e027fbf670dc66028 Author: Uladzislau Rezki (Sony) <urezki@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Thu Jun 30 18:33:35 2022 +0200 rcu/kvfree: Update KFREE_DRAIN_JIFFIES interval Currently the monitor work is scheduled with a fixed interval of HZ/20, which is roughly 50 milliseconds. The drawback of this approach is low utilization of the 512 page slots in scenarios with infrequence kvfree_rcu() calls. For example on an Android system: <snip> Apparently i see it in the "dev" branch only. -- Uladzislau Rezki