On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 7:05 PM Joel Fernandes <joel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 1:23 PM Joel Fernandes <joel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > [Sorry, adding back the CC list] > > > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 11:45 PM Joel Fernandes (Google) > > <joel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > This is required to prevent callbacks triggering RCU machinery too > > > quickly and too often, which adds more power to the system. > > > > > > When testing, we found that these paths were invoked often when the > > > system is not doing anything (screen is ON but otherwise idle). > > > > Unfortunately, I am seeing a slow down in ChromeOS boot performance > > after applying this particular patch. It is the first time I could > > test ChromeOS boot times with the series since it was hard to find a > > ChromeOS device that runs the upstream kernel. > > > > Anyway, Vlad, Neeraj, do you guys also see slower boot times with this > > patch? I wonder if the issue is with wake up interaction with the nocb > > GP threads. > > > > We ought to disable lazy RCU during boot since it would have little > > benefit anyway. But I am also concerned about some deeper problem I > > did not catch before. > > > > I'll look into tracing the fs paths to see if I can narrow down what's > > causing it. Will also try a newer kernel, I am currently testing on > > 5.19-rc4. > > I got somewhere with this. It looks like queuing CBs as lazy CBs > instead of normal CBs, are triggering expedited stalls during the boot > process: > > 39.949198] rcu: INFO: rcu_preempt detected expedited stalls on > CPUs/tasks: { } 28 jiffies s: 69 root: 0x0/. > > No idea how/why lazy RCU CBs would be related to expedited GP issues, > but maybe something hangs and causes that side-effect. > > initcall_debug did not help, as it seems initcalls all work fine, and > then 8 seconds after the boot, it starts slowing down a lot, followed > by the RCU stall messages. As a next step I'll enable ftrace during > the boot to see if I can get more insight. But I believe, its not the > FS layer, the FS layer just triggers lazy CBs, but there is something > wrong with the core lazy-RCU work itself. > > This kernel is 5.19-rc4. I'll also try to rebase ChromeOS on more > recent kernels and debug. More digging, thanks to trace_event= boot option , I find that the boot process does have some synchronous waits, and though these are "non-lazy", for some reason the lazy CBs that were previously queued are making them wait for the *full* lazy duration. Which points to a likely bug in the lazy RCU logic. These synchronous CBs should never be waiting like the lazy ones: [ 17.715904] => trace_dump_stack [ 17.715904] => __wait_rcu_gp [ 17.715904] => synchronize_rcu [ 17.715904] => selinux_netcache_avc_callback [ 17.715904] => avc_ss_reset [ 17.715904] => sel_write_enforce [ 17.715904] => vfs_write [ 17.715904] => ksys_write [ 17.715904] => do_syscall_64 [ 17.715904] => entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe I'm tired so I'll resume the debug later.