Joel, Joel Fernandes <joel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 03:55:00PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote: >> This is also correct vs. user mode entries in NOHZ full scenarios because >> user mode entries bring RCU out of EQS and force the RCU irq nesting state > > I had to re-read this sentence a couple of times. The 'user mode entries' > sounds like 'entry into user mode'. It would be good to reword it to 'IRQ > entry in user mode'. :) > My knowledge predates the rcu-watching reworks so apologies on the below > question but I still didn't fully follow why when the idle task behaves > differently from being in user mode. Even with user mode we should have: > > <user mode> (in EQS) > <irq entry> <---------- exits EQS so now rcu is watching > <softirq entry in the exit path> > <timer tick irq entry> <-- the buggy !watching logic prevents rcu_irq_enter > -> report QS since tick thinks it is first level. > > Is there a subtlety here I'm missing? I checked the RCU code and I did not > see anywhere that rcu_user_enter() makes it behave differently. Both > rcu_user_enter() and rcu_idle_enter() call rcu_eqs_enter(). The interrupt hit user mode entry does: idtentry_enter_cond_rcu() if (user_mode(regs)) enter_from_user_mode() user_exit_irqoff() __context_tracking_exit(CONTEXT_USER) rcu_user_exit() rcu_eqs_exit(1) ... WRITE_ONCE(rdp->dynticks_nmi_nesting, DYNTICK_IRQ_NONIDLE); i.e. for interrupts which enter from user mode we are not invoking rcu_irq_enter() at all. The return from interrupt path has nothing to do with that because that's an entry in kernel mode. Thanks, tglx