On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 06:03:52PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 17:45:40 -0400 > Joel Fernandes <joel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > Same for the function side (if not even more so). This would require adding > > > a srcu_read_lock() to all functions that can be traced! That would be a huge > > > kill in performance. Probably to the point no one would bother even using > > > function tracer. > > > > Point well taken! Thanks, > > Actually, it's worse than that. (We talked about this on IRC but I wanted > it documented here too). > > You can't use any type of locking, unless you insert it around all the > callers of the nops (which is unreasonable). > > That is, we have gcc -pg -mfentry that creates at the start of all traced > functions: > > <some_func>: > call __fentry__ > [code for function here] > > At boot up (or even by the compiler itself) we convert that to: > > <some_func>: > nop > [code for function here] > > > When we want to trace this function we use text_poke (with current kernels) > and convert it to this: > > <some_func>: > call trace_trampoline > [code for function here] > > > That trace_trampoline can be allocated, which means when its no longer > needed, it must be freed. But when do we know it's safe to free it? Here's > the issue. > > > <some_func>: > call trace_trampoline <- interrupt happens just after the jump > [code for function here] > > Now the task has just executed the call to the trace_trampoline. Which > means the instruction pointer is set to the start of the trampoline. But it > has yet executed that trampoline. > > Now if the task is preempted, and a real time hog is keeping it from > running for minutes at a time (which is possible!). And in the mean time, > we are done with that trampoline and free it. What happens when that task > is scheduled back? There's no more trampoline to execute even though its > instruction pointer is to execute the first operand on the trampoline! > > I used the analogy of jumping off the cliff expecting a magic carpet to be > there to catch you, and just before you land, it disappears. That would be > a very bad day indeed! I never have thought of an analogy between Tasks RCU and magic carpets before. Maybe time to go watch Aladdin or something. ;-) Thanx, Paul > We have no way to add a grace period between the start of a function (can > be *any* function) and the start of the trampoline. Since the problem is > that the task was non-voluntarily preempted before it could execute the > trampoline, and that trampolines are not allowed (suppose) to call > schedule, then we have our quiescent state to track (voluntary scheduling). > When all tasks have either voluntarily scheduled, or entered user space > after disconnecting a trampoline from a function, we know that it is safe to > free the trampoline. > > -- Steve