On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 2:08 PM Joel Fernandes <joel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Paul, everyone, > > I noticed on reading code that the need_heavy_qs check and > rcu_momentary_dyntick_idle() is only called for !PREEMPT kernels. Don't we > need to call this for PREEMPT kernels for the benefit of nohz_full CPUs? > > Consider the following events: > 1. Kernel is PREEMPT=y configuration. > 2. CPU 2 is a nohz_full CPU running only a single task and the tick is off. > 3. CPU 2 is running only in kernel mode and does not enter user mode or idle. > 4. Grace period thread running on CPU 3 enter the fqs loop. > 5. Enough time passes and it sets the need_heavy_qs for CPU2. > 6. CPU 2 is still in kernel mode but does cond_resched(). > 7. cond_resched() does not call rcu_momentary_dyntick_idle() because PREEMPT=y. > > Is 7. not calling rcu_momentary_dyntick_idle() a lost opportunity for the FQS > loop to detect that the CPU has crossed a quiescent point? > > Is this done so that cond_resched() is fast for PREEMPT=y kernels? Oh, so I take it this bit of code in rcu_implicit_dynticks_qs(), with the accompanying comments, takes care of the scenario I describe? Another way could be just call rcu_momentary_dyntick_idle() during cond_resched() for nohz_full CPUs? Is that pricey? /* * NO_HZ_FULL CPUs can run in-kernel without rcu_sched_clock_irq! * The above code handles this, but only for straight cond_resched(). * And some in-kernel loops check need_resched() before calling * cond_resched(), which defeats the above code for CPUs that are * running in-kernel with scheduling-clock interrupts disabled. * So hit them over the head with the resched_cpu() hammer! */ if (tick_nohz_full_cpu(rdp->cpu) && time_after(jiffies, READ_ONCE(rdp->last_fqs_resched) + jtsq * 3)) { resched_cpu(rdp->cpu); WRITE_ONCE(rdp->last_fqs_resched, jiffies); }