On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:38:31AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 12:47:24PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:55 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:30:31AM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:34:55AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 10:24:36 -0400
> > > > > Joel Fernandes <joel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > What am I missing here?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This issue I think is
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (in normal process context)
> > > > > > spin_lock_irqsave(rq_lock); // which disables both preemption and interrupt
> > > > > > // but this was done in normal process context,
> > > > > > // not from IRQ handler
> > > > > > rcu_read_lock();
> > > > > > <---------- IPI comes in and sets exp_hint
> > > > >
> > > > > How would an IPI come in here with interrupts disabled?
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Steve
> > > >
> > > > This is true, could it be rcu_read_unlock_special() got called for some
> > > > *other* reason other than the IPI then?
> > > >
> > > > Per Sebastian's stack trace of the recursive lock scenario, it is happening
> > > > during cpu_acct_charge() which is called with the rq_lock held.
> > > >
> > > > The only other reasons I know off to call rcu_read_unlock_special() are if
> > > > 1. the tick indicated that the CPU has to report a QS
> > > > 2. an IPI in the middle of the reader section for expedited GPs
> > > > 3. preemption in the middle of a preemptible RCU reader section
> > >
> > > 4. Some previous reader section was IPIed or preempted, but either
> > > interrupts, softirqs, or preemption was disabled across the
> > > rcu_read_unlock() of that previous reader section.
> >
> > Hi Paul, I did not fully understand 4. The previous RCU reader section
> > could not have been IPI'ed or been preempted if interrupts were
> > disabled across. Also, if softirq/preempt is disabled across the
> > previous reader section, the previous reader could not be preempted in
> > these case.
>
> Like this, courtesy of the consolidation of RCU flavors:
>
> previous_reader()
> {
> rcu_read_lock();
> do_something(); /* Preemption happened here. */
> local_irq_disable(); /* Cannot be the scheduler! */
> do_something_else();
> rcu_read_unlock(); /* Must defer QS, task still queued. */
> do_some_other_thing();
> local_irq_enable();
> }
>
> current_reader() /* QS from previous_reader() is still deferred. */
> {
> local_irq_disable(); /* Might be the scheduler. */
> do_whatever();
> rcu_read_lock();
> do_whatever_else();
> rcu_read_unlock(); /* Must still defer reporting QS. */
> do_whatever_comes_to_mind();
> local_irq_enable();
> }
>
> Both instances of rcu_read_unlock() need to cause some later thing
> to report the quiescent state, and in some cases it will do a wakeup.
> Now, previous_reader()'s IRQ disabling cannot be due to scheduler rq/pi
> locks due to the rule about holding them across the entire RCU reader
> if they are held across the rcu_read_unlock(). But current_reader()'s
> IRQ disabling might well be due to the scheduler rq/pi locks, so
> current_reader() must be careful about doing wakeups.
Makes sense now, thanks.
> > That leaves us with the only scenario where the previous reader was
> > IPI'ed while softirq/preempt was disabled across it. Is that what you
> > meant?
>
> No, but that can also happen.
>
> > But in this scenario, the previous reader should have set
> > exp_hint to false in the previous reader's rcu_read_unlock_special()
> > invocation itself. So I would think t->rcu_read_unlock_special should
> > be 0 during the new reader's invocation thus I did not understand how
> > rcu_read_unlock_special can be called because of a previous reader.
>
> Yes, exp_hint would unconditionally be set to false in the first
> reader's rcu_read_unlock(). But .blocked won't be.
Makes sense.
> > I'll borrow some of that confused color paint if you don't mind ;-)
> > And we should document this somewhere for future sanity preservation
> > :-D
>
> Or adjust the code and requirements to make it more sane, if feasible.
>
> My current (probably wildly unreliable) guess that the conditions in
> rcu_read_unlock_special() need adjusting. I was assuming that in_irq()
> implies a hardirq context, in other words that in_irq() would return
> false from a threaded interrupt handler. If in_irq() instead returns
> true from within a threaded interrupt handler, then this code in
> rcu_read_unlock_special() needs fixing:
>
> if ((exp || in_irq()) && irqs_were_disabled && use_softirq &&
> (in_irq() || !t->rcu_read_unlock_special.b.deferred_qs)) {
> // Using softirq, safe to awaken, and we get
> // no help from enabling irqs, unlike bh/preempt.
> raise_softirq_irqoff(RCU_SOFTIRQ);
>
> The fix would be replacing the calls to in_irq() with something that
> returns true only if called from within a hardirq context.
> Thoughts?
I am not sure if this will fix all cases though?
I think the crux of the problem is doing a recursive wake up. The threaded
IRQ probably just happens to be causing it here, it seems to me this problem
can also occur on a non-threaded irq system (say current_reader() in your
example executed in a scheduler path in process-context and not from an
interrupt). Is that not possible?
I think the fix should be to prevent the wake-up not based on whether we are
in hard/soft-interrupt mode but that we are doing the rcu_read_unlock() from
a scheduler path (if we can detect that)
I lost track of this code:
if ((exp || in_irq()) && irqs_were_disabled && use_softirq &&
(in_irq() || !t->rcu_read_unlock_special.b.deferred_qs)) {
Was this patch posted to the list? I will blame it to try to get some
context. It sounds like you added more conditions on when to kick the
softirq.
> Ugh. Same question about IRQ work. Will the current use of it by
> rcu_read_unlock_special() cause breakage in the presence of threaded
> interrupt handlers?
/me needs to understand why the irq work stuff was added here as well. Have
my work cut out for the day! ;-)
thanks,
- Joel
>
> Thanx, Paul
>
> > thanks,
> > - Joel
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I -think- that this is what Sebastian is seeing.
> > >
> > > Thanx, Paul
> > >
> > > > 1. and 2. are not possible because interrupts are disabled, that's why the
> > > > wakeup_softirq even happened.
> > > > 3. is not possible because we are holding rq_lock in the RCU reader section.
> > > >
> > > > So I am at a bit of a loss how this can happen :-(
> > > >
> > > > Spurious call to rcu_read_unlock_special() may be when it should not have
> > > > been called?
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > - Joel
>
