On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Shaohua Li <shli@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Please pull MD update for 4.12. There are conflicts between MD tree and block > tree, so I did a merge before the pull request. I pulled this, but *please* don't do those broken merges. Why is it broken? Let me just count the merge message in its entirety: "Merge branch 'md-next' into md-linus" that's it. That doesn't really help anything. There is *no* explanation for the merge. No "What", no "Why", nothing to explain why you are merging with that _particular_ point in history. In contrast, when I do merges, even if I don't have a lot of commit message (and I try to have explanations - I will complain to submaintainers if they don't give me enough information), there's very much some implied information: "somebody asked Linus to pull this point". I don't just randomly merge random points in development. That merge, in contrast, very much merged completely random points in time. In fact, the particular point you merged makes no sense at all and is probably the *worst* possible kind of merge point. It's not just a random point in time (me having just merged the LED drivers), it's a point in the middle of the first day of the merge window. Which is just about the *worst* possible thing to do, because that's often the point that is the least reliable. Seriously. DO NOT DO THIS! I'm perfectly happy handling merge conflicts. I *much* prefer that over this kind of "easy but crappy merge". I appreciate it a lot if submaintainers do a "test merge" to see what might conflict, and then explain what the conflict is and why it happened in the pull request. That's absolutely lovely - it's a nice heads-up about what happened, and it shows that you cared and you knew about the conflict, and it makes me all warm and fuzzy. But this kind of random bad merge of me tree during the most volatile time of the merge window? That's just wrong. It doesn't even help me, I probably spent about as much time looking at the conflct with your merge in place as I would have when I resolved it, and then spent more time writing this "please don't do this" rant than it would have taken me to just do the merge. Yes, occasionally the conflicts end up being nasty enough that I ask people to verify my work. And _very_ occasionally I might ask you to actually do the merge for me, but I don't recall when something was really messy enough for that to happen. This did not look that messy at all. I have sent a variation of this email to people (and the mailing list) probably approaching a hundred times over the 10+ years we've used git. Don't do back-merges unless you have a *really* good reason for it, and if you have that reason, you had damn well *explain* that reason in the merge message. And "make the merge easier for Linus" is _never_ a good reason. If you want to make life easier for me, please just do that test-merge and explanation of what's going on: lots of maintainers do that, and I really appreciate it. If you feel the merge isn't trivial, you can even make the merge available as a ".. this is how I merged it" branch - when people do that, I will actually end up doing the merge on my own first (without looking at your merge), and then re-do the whole thing *with* your merge in a test-branch, and verify the differences. Because the differences (if there are any - it's seldom the case other than trivial whitespace or other slight differences) are actually really interesting markers for me, and tend to show where subtle issues were. But don't ask me to pull a pre-merged thing that just hides the conflicts. Please please please don't do this. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html