Anyone? :) Clearly I can't be the only person using md raid5 and dmcrypt, right? :) If you are, how did you build yours? Thanks, Marc On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:59:53PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > I have a btrfs filesystem with many many files which got slow likely due to > btrfs optimization issues, but someone pointed out that I should also look > at write amplification problems. > > This is my current array: > gargamel:~# mdadm --detail /dev/md8 > /dev/md8: > Version : 1.2 > Creation Time : Thu Mar 25 20:15:00 2010 > Raid Level : raid5 > Array Size : 7814045696 (7452.05 GiB 8001.58 GB) > Used Dev Size : 1953511424 (1863.01 GiB 2000.40 GB) > Persistence : Superblock is persistent > Intent Bitmap : Internal > Layout : left-symmetric > Chunk Size : 512K < I guess this is too big > > http://superuser.com/questions/305716/bad-performance-with-linux-software-raid5-and-luks-encryption > says: > "LUKS has a botleneck, that is it just spawns one thread per block device. > > Are you placing the encryption on top of the RAID 5? Then from the point of > view of your OS you just have one device, then it is using just one thread > for all those disks, meaning disks are working in a serial way rather than > parallel." > but it was disputed in a reply. > Does someone know if this is still valid/correct in 3.14? > > Since I'm going to recreate the filesystem considering the troubles I've had > with it, I might as well do it better this time :) > (but doing the copy back will take days, so I'd rather get it right the first time) > > How would you recommend I create the array when I rebuild it? > > This filesystem contains may backup with many files, most small, and ideally > identical stuff is hardlinked together (many files, many hardlinks) > gargamel:~# btrfs fi df /mnt/btrfs_pool2 > Data, single: total=3.28TiB, used=2.29TiB > System, DUP: total=8.00MiB, used=384.00KiB > System, single: total=4.00MiB, used=0.00 > Metadata, DUP: total=74.50GiB, used=70.11GiB <<< muchos metadata > Metadata, single: total=8.00MiB, used=0.00 > > > #1 move the intent bitmap to another device. I have /boot on swraid1 with > ext4, so I'll likely use this (man page says ext3 only, but I hope ext4 > is good too, right?) > #2 change chunk size to something smaller? 128K better? > #3 anything else? > > Then, I used this for dmcrypt: > cryptsetup luksFormat --align-payload=8192 -s 256 -c aes-xts-plain64 > > The align-payload was good for my SSD, but probably not for a hard drive. > http://wiki.drewhess.com/wiki/Creating_an_encrypted_filesystem_on_a_partition > says > "To calculate this value, multiply your RAID chunk size in bytes by the > number of data disks in the array (N/2 for RAID 1, N-1 for RAID 5 and N-2 > for RAID 6), and divide by 512 bytes per sector." > > So 512K * 4 / 512 = 4K > In other words, I can do align-payload=4096 for a small reduction of write > amplification, or =1024 if I change my raid chunk size to 128K > > Correct? > Do you recommend that I indeed rebuild that raid5 with a chunk size of 128K? > > Other bits I found that can maybe help others: > http://superuser.com/questions/305716/bad-performance-with-linux-software-raid5-and-luks-encryption > > This seems to help work around the write amplification a bit: > for i in /sys/block/md*/md/stripe_cache_size; do echo 16384 > $i; done > > This looks like an easy thing, done. > > If you have other suggestions/comments, please share :) > > Thanks, > Marc > -- > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. > Microsoft is to operating systems .... > .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking > Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html