Re: wish for Linux MD mirrored raid types

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hum, if you check docs, source, and test, you will check that md raid
can have >=2 mirrors without problems, you can have 3 disks and 3
mirrors, you can have 3 disks and 2 mirrors, you can have 1 disk with
10 partitions, and each partition be a mirror of each other, the point
here is, md software isn´t a hardware raid, it´s very near but have
more features, i don´t know if we should change md to allow it be
compatible with a 'industrial standard' since we have more feature
than standard, you must check what you want and use it
maybe some article at wiki,
standard X, layout Y, level W = md raid level A layout B devices C
mirrors D spares E .....
i think this is welcome to linux wiki page

2011/5/9 Keld Jørn Simonsen <keld@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 01:22:42PM +0800, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote:
>> On 5/6/11, Keld Jørn Simonsen <keld@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Hi List
>> >
>> > based on the recent discussion, that showed lacking knowledge
>> > on Linux MD RAID10 features, I have some thoughts:
>> >
>> > It is really hard to disseminate information on "new" features
>> > in MD RAID. RAID10 has been in the kernel since 2.6.9 - from 2004.
>> > I have tried to give info on RAID10 at a number of web pages,
>> > and still many people, even on our linux-raid list are not aware
>> > of it.
>> >
>> > Also many people are confused about Linux MD raid10 and RAID1+0.
>> >
>> > So I think we shopuld rather name things in another way.
>> >
>> > I would like linux MD raid10 functionality to be part of the Linux MD
>> > RAID1 module, and be called raid1. This is in accordance with the
>> > use of the RAID1 term as standadized by SNIA. In fact the RAID10-offset
>> > layout is an implementation of a SNIA RAID specification. The RAID10-near
>> > layout is an implementation of a simple RAID layout. And the RAID10-far
>> > layout is just another layout far a mirrored RAID.  So all these types
>> > could just be defined as different RAID1 layouts.
>>
>> Giving my noob's 2 cents worth although I haven't followed the
>> original discussion. As a noob,  I think doing this will just confuse
>> us more.
>>
>> There are plenty of existing materials around for those of us who try
>> to figure things out by googling. As it is, our (or maybe just me)
>> understanding is Linux RAID 1 is just like every other raid 1: simple
>> and straightforward, 2 drives mirroring each other.
>>
>> This is is also usually the level that most of us start with. If the
>> instructions are short, easy to understand and simple to implement, we
>> usually gain confidence in using it and exploring mdraid further.
>>
>> Most of us noobs are also aware that RAID 10 is more complicated and
>> there are two versions, i.e. 1+0 and 0+1. So psychologically, I had no
>> problems accepting that once I looked into it, there were much more
>> complex stuff and all these possible layouts: mdraid is cool!
>>
>> Now, if RAID 10 was renamed to RAID 1, with the corresponding change
>> in documentation, what's going to happen for us noobs is this: "Omg,
>> why are there so many different versions and options just for raid 1?"
>> and importantly "Why is this manual/wiki different from the tons of
>> other pages about using mdraid 1?" For some, this would mean mdraid is
>> too difficult even for raid 1, mdraid is not cool! :)
>>
>> So newbies will get more confused/frustrated as a result.
>>
>> Personally, I had to spend some time figuring out (I'm noob and I'm
>> not very smart) the different layouts from the examples on wiki. This
>> is because there wasn't enough examples, at least to me, to clearly
>> show what's the difference if more/less disks were used. So for me,
>> and other noobs, it would probably help if the wiki had more examples
>> of each layout, maybe graphics to show the difference since it's
>> probably easier to see things if they were colour coded blocks rather
>> than stuff like A1 a1 A2 a2.
>>
>> This and perhaps more elaboration on the difference between mdraid 10
>> and normal raid 10  would probably be better to clear up confusion
>> than renaming something we might have some familiarity with, into
>> something we also already have familiarity, resulting in something
>> that contradicts existing familiarity.
>
> I see your point. Given Neil's input I think we should  rateher call it
> raid1e.
>
> Best regards
> keld
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