Re: md's fail to assemble correctly consistently at system startup - mdadm 3.1.2 and Ubuntu 10.04

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Hi Neil,

I may have spoken a bit too soon. It seems that while the md's are
coming up successfully, on occasion, hot-spares are not coming up
associated with their proper md's. As a result, what was a RAID 5 md
with one hot-spare will on occasion come up as a RAID 5 md with no
hot-spare.

Any ideas on this one?

-Tommy

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:00 AM, Neil Brown <neilb@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 07:26:59 -0700
> "fibreraid@xxxxxxxxx" <fibreraid@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Neil for the reply and heads-up on 3.1.3. I will test that
>> immediately and report back my findings.
>>
>> One potential issue I noticed is that Ubuntu Lucid's default kernel
>> configuration has CONFIG_MD_AUTODETECT enabled. I thought this feature
>> might conflict with udev, so I've attempted to disable this by adding
>> a parameter to my grub2 bootup: raid=noautodetect. But I am not sure
>> if this is effective. Do you think this kernel setting could also be a
>> problem source?
>
> If you don't use "Linux raid autodetect" partition types (which you say below
> that you don't) this CONFIG setting will have no effect at all.
>
>>
>> Another method I was contemplating to avoid a potential locking issue
>> is to have udev's mdadm -i command run with watershed, which should in
>> theory serialize it. What do you think?
>>
>> SUBSYSTEM=="block", ACTION=="add|change", ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}=="linux_raid*", \
>>    RUN+="watershed -i mdadm /sbin/mdadm --incremental $env{DEVNAME}"
>
> I haven't come across watershed before.  I couldn't easily find out much
> about it on the web, so I cannot say what effect it would have.  My guess
> from what little I have read is 'none'.
>
>>
>> Finally, in your view, is it essential that the underlying partitions
>> used in the md's be the "Linux raid autodetect" type? My partitions at
>> the moment are just plain "Linux".
>
> I actually recommend "Non-FS data" (0xDA) as 'Linux' might make some tools
> think there is a filesystem there even though there isn't.  But 'Linux' is
> mostly fine.  I avoid "Linux raid autodetect" as it enable the MD_AUTODETECT
> functionality which I don't like.
>
> NeilBrown
>
>
>>
>> Anyway, I will test mdadm 3.1.3 right now but I wanted to ask for your
>> insight/comments on the above. Thanks!
>>
>> Best,
>> Tommy
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Neil Brown <neilb@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 18:27:58 -0700
>> > "fibreraid@xxxxxxxxx" <fibreraid@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I am facing a serious issue with md's on my Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit
>> >> server. I am using mdadm 3.1.2. The system has 40 drives in it, and
>> >> there are 10 md devices, which are a combination of RAID 0, 1, 5, 6,
>> >> and 10 levels. The drives are connected via LSI SAS adapters in
>> >> external SAS JBODs.
>> >>
>> >> When I boot the system, about 50% of the time, the md's will not come
>> >> up correctly. Instead of md0-md9 being active, some or all will be
>> >> inactive and there will be new md's like md127, md126, md125, etc.
>> >
>> > Sounds like a locking problem - udev is calling "mdadm -I" on each device and
>> > might call some in parallel.  mdadm needs to serialise things to ensure this
>> > sort of confusion doesn't happen.
>> >
>> > It is possible that this is fixed in the just-released mdadm-3.1.3.  If you
>> > could test and and see if it makes a difference that would help a lot.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > NeilBrown
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Here is the output of /proc/mdstat when all md's come up correctly:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Personalities : [linear] [multipath] [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5]
>> >> [raid4] [raid10]
>> >> md0 : active raid6 sdj1[6] sdk1[7] sdf1[2] sdb1[10] sdg1[3] sdl1[8](S)
>> >> sdh1[4] sdm1[9] sde1[1] sdi1[12](S) sdc1[11] sdd1[0]
>> >>       1146967040 blocks super 1.2 level 6, 128k chunk, algorithm 2
>> >> [10/10] [UUUUUUUUUU]
>> >>
>> >> md9 : active raid0 sdao1[1] sdan1[0]
>> >>       976765440 blocks super 1.2 256k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md8 : active raid0 sdam1[1] sdal1[0]
>> >>       976765440 blocks super 1.2 256k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md7 : active raid0 sdak1[1] sdaj1[0]
>> >>       976765888 blocks super 1.2 4k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md6 : active raid0 sdai1[1] sdah1[0]
>> >>       976765696 blocks super 1.2 128k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md5 : active raid0 sdag1[1] sdaf1[0]
>> >>       976765440 blocks super 1.2 256k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md4 : active raid0 sdae1[1] sdad1[0]
>> >>       976765888 blocks super 1.2 32k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md3 : active raid1 sdac1[1] sdab1[0]
>> >>       195357272 blocks super 1.2 [2/2] [UU]
>> >>
>> >> md2 : active raid0 sdaa1[0] sdz1[1]
>> >>       62490672 blocks super 1.2 4k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md1 : active raid5 sdy1[10] sdx1[9] sdw1[8] sdv1[7] sdu1[6] sdt1[5]
>> >> sds1[4] sdr1[3] sdq1[2] sdp1[11](S) sdo1[1] sdn1[0]
>> >>       2929601120 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 16k chunk, algorithm 2
>> >> [11/11] [UUUUUUUUUUU]
>> >>
>> >> unused devices: <none>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Here are several examples of when they do not come up correctly.
>> >> Again, I am not making any configuration changes; I just reboot the
>> >> system and check /proc/mdstat several minutes after it is fully
>> >> booted.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Personalities : [linear] [multipath] [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5]
>> >> [raid4] [raid10]
>> >> md124 : inactive sdam1[1](S)
>> >>       488382944 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md125 : inactive sdag1[1](S)
>> >>       488382944 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md7 : active raid0 sdaj1[0] sdak1[1]
>> >>       976765888 blocks super 1.2 4k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md126 : inactive sdw1[8](S) sdn1[0](S) sdo1[1](S) sdu1[6](S)
>> >> sdq1[2](S) sdx1[9](S)
>> >>       1757761512 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md9 : active raid0 sdan1[0] sdao1[1]
>> >>       976765440 blocks super 1.2 256k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md6 : inactive sdah1[0](S)
>> >>       488382944 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md4 : inactive sdae1[1](S)
>> >>       488382944 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md8 : inactive sdal1[0](S)
>> >>       488382944 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md127 : inactive sdg1[3](S) sdl1[8](S) sdc1[11](S) sdi1[12](S)
>> >> sdf1[2](S) sdb1[10](S)
>> >>       860226027 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md5 : inactive sdaf1[0](S)
>> >>       488382944 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md1 : inactive sdr1[3](S) sdp1[11](S) sdt1[5](S) sds1[4](S)
>> >> sdy1[10](S) sdv1[7](S)
>> >>       1757761512 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md0 : inactive sde1[1](S) sdh1[4](S) sdm1[9](S) sdj1[6](S) sdd1[0](S) sdk1[7](S)
>> >>       860226027 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md3 : inactive sdab1[0](S)
>> >>       195357344 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md2 : active raid0 sdaa1[0] sdz1[1]
>> >>       62490672 blocks super 1.2 4k chunks
>> >>
>> >> unused devices: <none>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Personalities : [linear] [multipath] [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5]
>> >> [raid4] [raid10]
>> >> md126 : inactive sdaf1[0](S)
>> >>       488382944 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md127 : inactive sdae1[1](S)
>> >>       488382944 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md9 : active raid0 sdan1[0] sdao1[1]
>> >>       976765440 blocks super 1.2 256k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md7 : active raid0 sdaj1[0] sdak1[1]
>> >>       976765888 blocks super 1.2 4k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md4 : inactive sdad1[0](S)
>> >>       488382944 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md6 : active raid0 sdah1[0] sdai1[1]
>> >>       976765696 blocks super 1.2 128k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md8 : active raid0 sdam1[1] sdal1[0]
>> >>       976765440 blocks super 1.2 256k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md5 : inactive sdag1[1](S)
>> >>       488382944 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md0 : active raid6 sdc1[11] sdd1[0] sdh1[4] sdf1[2] sdm1[9] sde1[1]
>> >> sdb1[10] sdg1[3] sdl1[8](S) sdj1[6] sdk1[7] sdi1[12](S)
>> >>       1146967040 blocks super 1.2 level 6, 128k chunk, algorithm 2
>> >> [10/10] [UUUUUUUUUU]
>> >>
>> >> md1 : active raid5 sdq1[2] sdy1[10] sdv1[7] sdn1[0] sdt1[5] sdw1[8]
>> >> sdp1[11](S) sdr1[3] sdu1[6] sdx1[9] sdo1[1] sds1[4]
>> >>       2929601120 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 16k chunk, algorithm 2
>> >> [11/11] [UUUUUUUUUUU]
>> >>
>> >> md3 : active raid1 sdac1[1] sdab1[0]
>> >>       195357272 blocks super 1.2 [2/2] [UU]
>> >>
>> >> md2 : active raid0 sdz1[1] sdaa1[0]
>> >>       62490672 blocks super 1.2 4k chunks
>> >>
>> >> unused devices: <none>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Personalities : [linear] [multipath] [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5]
>> >> [raid4] [raid10]
>> >> md127 : inactive sdab1[0](S)
>> >>       195357344 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md4 : active raid0 sdad1[0] sdae1[1]
>> >>       976765888 blocks super 1.2 32k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md7 : active raid0 sdak1[1] sdaj1[0]
>> >>       976765888 blocks super 1.2 4k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md8 : active raid0 sdam1[1] sdal1[0]
>> >>       976765440 blocks super 1.2 256k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md6 : active raid0 sdah1[0] sdai1[1]
>> >>       976765696 blocks super 1.2 128k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md9 : active raid0 sdao1[1] sdan1[0]
>> >>       976765440 blocks super 1.2 256k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md5 : active raid0 sdaf1[0] sdag1[1]
>> >>       976765440 blocks super 1.2 256k chunks
>> >>
>> >> md1 : active raid5 sdy1[10] sdv1[7] sdu1[6] sds1[4] sdq1[2]
>> >> sdp1[11](S) sdt1[5] sdo1[1] sdx1[9] sdr1[3] sdw1[8] sdn1[0]
>> >>       2929601120 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 16k chunk, algorithm 2
>> >> [11/11] [UUUUUUUUUUU]
>> >>
>> >> md0 : active raid6 sdl1[8](S) sdd1[0] sdc1[11] sdg1[3] sdk1[7] sde1[1]
>> >> sdm1[9] sdb1[10] sdi1[12](S) sdh1[4] sdf1[2] sdj1[6]
>> >>       1146967040 blocks super 1.2 level 6, 128k chunk, algorithm 2
>> >> [10/10] [UUUUUUUUUU]
>> >>
>> >> md3 : inactive sdac1[1](S)
>> >>       195357344 blocks super 1.2
>> >>
>> >> md2 : active raid0 sdz1[1] sdaa1[0]
>> >>       62490672 blocks super 1.2 4k chunks
>> >>
>> >> unused devices: <none>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> My mdadm.conf file is as follows:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> # mdadm.conf
>> >> #
>> >> # Please refer to mdadm.conf(5) for information about this file.
>> >> #
>> >>
>> >> # by default, scan all partitions (/proc/partitions) for MD superblocks.
>> >> # alternatively, specify devices to scan, using wildcards if desired.
>> >> DEVICE partitions
>> >>
>> >> # auto-create devices with Debian standard permissions
>> >> CREATE owner=root group=disk mode=0660 auto=yes
>> >>
>> >> # automatically tag new arrays as belonging to the local system
>> >> HOMEHOST <system>
>> >>
>> >> # instruct the monitoring daemon where to send mail alerts
>> >> MAILADDR root
>> >>
>> >> # definitions of existing MD arrays
>> >>
>> >> # This file was auto-generated on Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:42:57 -0500
>> >> # by mkconf $Id$
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Any insight would be greatly appreciated. This is a big problem as it
>> >> is now. Thank you very much in advance!
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> -Tommy
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