> Thanks for the thoughtful and comprehensive advice. > > Yes I do regular backups from machine to machine (one to the other), but > my video library is getting large and it's impractical to back that up so > I look to RAID. You need to think that through a bit. A RAID10 (or other mirrored solution) requires just as many drives as a backup server solution. Doing a JOBD solution on both systems and then backing up from one to the other takes no more drive space than a RAID10. I am a belt and suspenders sort of guy, so I personally employ fault tolerant RAID arrays on both systems, but a backup JOBD array provides essentially as much robustness as a RAID10 solution, as long as one can live with the primary system going down for a period of time when a drive is lost and live with the time it takes to transfer the material back from the backup to the main system after a drive is replaced. In my case, I eliminate the down time by adding an extra three parity drives, and employing RAID6 on the main array and RAID5 on the backup. > I've thought about backing up to DVD-RW, but I'd need > several so will likely just make deep storage volumes. (very occasional) Several? Backing up 1T of storage would require over 100 dual layer DVDs. > I don't trust tape backup of any type, and blu-ray write is a losing > concept when disk space is so cheep. Agreed, plus multi-terrabyte tape drives are very expensive, and the media is as expensive as a hard drive. Blu-Ray is even worse. Much worse. > I hear you on the human error aspect, and to have the garage as sort of an > offline storage is interesting, but it would take forever to back up my > data there. No it doesn't. It's true the initial backup will take a while (possibly up to 10 hours per terrabyte, or possibly as little as 3 hours per terrabyte over a Gig-E link), but then so will building the initial array. Whether you copy the data via rsync (or other file copy utility) or via md when building the array, it's going to take the same amount of time. It's not like you have to sit and watch the process, though, or like the system is down during the copy. Activity can continue on your main system normally, with some performance hit, of course. > Not familiar with rsync and will look into it. Maybe it's a > diff sort of copy. One does not do a full backup of the data on a daily basis, no matter what. With video in particular, the bulk of the data never changes once it is written to disk. Once a video file is copied over to the backup, it never needs to be copied again. Rsync offers a large number of options for copying based upon various criteria. Take a look at the following from my video server: RAID-Server:/usr/bin# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda2 110G 5.3G 105G 5% / tmpfs 1.7G 0 1.7G 0% /lib/init/rw udev 10M 132K 9.9M 2% /dev tmpfs 1.7G 0 1.7G 0% /dev/shm /dev/md0 7.3T 6.4T 957G 88% /RAID /dev/hda4 788M 948K 747M 1% /etc/mdadm/bitmap Backup:/Backup 8.2T 6.5T 1.8T 79% /Backup The /Backup directory is a remote share using NFS from my backup server. Now take a look at this morning's backup to the /Backup directory performed by the backup server ( I do the backup from the backup server so the rsync process uses very little CPU time on the video server): receiving incremental file list Mail/ Mail/lrhorer 0 0% 0.00kB/s 0:00:00 106.36M 69% 101.44MB/s 0:00:00 152.08M 100% 108.80MB/s 0:00:01 (xfer#1, to-check=1391/1469) Mail_Folders/ Personal_Folders/Leslie/Outlook Files/Outlook Shared File.pst 0 0% 0.00kB/s 0:00:00 582 0% 0.43kB/s 27:37:05 42.68M 100% 22.51MB/s 0:00:01 (xfer#2, to-check=1005/5430) Personal_Folders/Leslie/Quicken/2009.QDF 0 0% 0.00kB/s 0:00:00 8.73M 100% 13.40MB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#3, to-check=1037/5863) Server-Main/Movies/ Server-Main/Movies/Unverified TiVo Movies.csv 0 0% 0.00kB/s 0:00:00 84 100% 82.03kB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#4, to-check=1019/24852) Number of files: 31734 Number of files transferred: 4 Total file size: 6974.09G bytes Total transferred file size: 203.49M bytes Literal data: 900.42K bytes Matched data: 202.59M bytes File list size: 896.65K File list generation time: 0.001 seconds File list transfer time: 0.000 seconds Total bytes sent: 152.50K Total bytes received: 1.90M sent 152.50K bytes received 1.90M bytes 241.03K bytes/sec total size is 6974.09G speedup is 3404008.11 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html