Re: [PATCH v2 4/8] core: move sink-inputs conditionally when update default_sink

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On 05.07.19 09:41, Tanu Kaskinen wrote:
On Tue, 2019-07-02 at 09:08 +0200, Georg Chini wrote:
On 02.07.19 08:43, Tanu Kaskinen wrote:
On Mon, 2019-07-01 at 08:03 +0200, Georg Chini wrote:
On 01.07.19 07:08, Tanu Kaskinen wrote:
On Sun, 2019-06-30 at 13:52 +0200, Georg Chini wrote:
On 17.01.19 07:53, Hui Wang wrote:
When the default sink changes, the streams from the old default sink
should be moved to the new default sink, unless the preferred_sink
string is set to the old default sink and the active port of the old
default sink is not unavailable


static pa_hook_result_t sink_put_hook_callback(pa_core *c, pa_sink *sink, void* userdata) {
-    pa_sink_input *i;
-    uint32_t idx;
-    pa_sink *old_default_sink;
         const char *s;
         struct userdata *u = userdata;
@@ -88,7 +85,7 @@ static pa_hook_result_t sink_put_hook_callback(pa_core *c, pa_sink *sink, void* /* No default sink, nothing to move away, just set the new default */
         if (!c->default_sink) {
-        pa_core_set_configured_default_sink(c, sink->name);
+        pa_core_set_configured_default_sink(c, sink->name, false);
             return PA_HOOK_OK;
         }
@@ -103,28 +100,8 @@ static pa_hook_result_t sink_put_hook_callback(pa_core *c, pa_sink *sink, void*
                 return PA_HOOK_OK;
             }
- old_default_sink = c->default_sink;
-
         /* Actually do the switch to the new sink */
-    pa_core_set_configured_default_sink(c, sink->name);
-
-    /* Now move all old inputs over */
-    if (pa_idxset_size(old_default_sink->inputs) <= 0) {
-        pa_log_debug("No sink inputs to move away.");
-        return PA_HOOK_OK;
-    }
-
-    PA_IDXSET_FOREACH(i, old_default_sink->inputs, idx) {
-        if (pa_safe_streq(i->sink->name, i->preferred_sink) || !PA_SINK_INPUT_IS_LINKED(i->state))
-            continue;
-
-        if (pa_sink_input_move_to(i, sink, false) < 0)
-            pa_log_info("Failed to move sink input %u \"%s\" to %s.", i->index,
-                        pa_strnull(pa_proplist_gets(i->proplist, PA_PROP_APPLICATION_NAME)), sink->name);
-        else
-            pa_log_info("Successfully moved sink input %u \"%s\" to %s.", i->index,
-                        pa_strnull(pa_proplist_gets(i->proplist, PA_PROP_APPLICATION_NAME)), sink->name);
-    }
+    pa_core_set_configured_default_sink(c, sink->name, false);
I wonder if we could use something like
pa_core_set_temporary_default_sink() here
and have a variable core->temporary_default_sink that has even higher
priority
than core->configured_default_sink in the default sink selection
process. The temporary
default sink could be reset when the sink vanishes again or replaced
when another new
sink turns up. What module-switch-on-connect does is to temporarily
override the default
sink that the user configured. If we save this in another variable we
would not overwrite
the user configured default sink by a sink that is not expected to be
present the next
time PA is started. But that would be just nice to have.
I'm against adding that kind of extra complexity without a very good
justification. module-switch-on-connect should become nearly obsolete
anyway after this patch set has been merged.
We already talked about this some time ago and you agreed
that this would be useful. Maybe you remember that discussion.
I remember that we discussed my initial attempt at implementing what
this patch set does. I probably should go back to that discussion to
find out why I agreed that we should add a separate "temporary default
sink" variable.
You did not exactly agree to adding a temporary_default_sink
variable. You agreed however (after some discussion) that
what module-switch-on-connect does is a temporary override
of the configured default sink and that there should be a way
to restore the original default sink. (The user may have set
another than the highest priority sink as default, see also
below).

It seems quite simple to add such a variable and replace it
when a new sink turns up or set it to NULL if the current
temporary default sink is removed. This would then make
it really easy to implement the module-switch-on-connect
functionality in the core at some later point.
I'm concerned about the complexity of answering the question "how is
the default sink determined". The fact that "default sink" and
"configured default sink" are different things is already bothersome.

Why do you find this bothersome? I think it is pretty obvious
that the two are not necessarily identical.

Your point about restoring the old configured default sink is
definitely valid, although that problem seems to be not specific to
module-switch-on-connect: if there are 3 sinks, the user can't specify
which of them is the second most preferred sink in case the configured
default sink goes away. Having a priority list of sinks based on manual
configuration history might be a better way to solve this (although I'm
afraid it's not that simple if there are sink with multiple ports).

I remember you proposed some kind of history, but I personally
don't think a long history is required. Just going back to the last
sink if I temporarily overwrote the default sink seems fully
sufficient from a user perspective.

But I see you don't want something like that (at least not now), so
I guess we forget my initial suggestion. It will probably work correctly
anyway, because the user will have the configured default sink set.
See also below.


Consider you add your BT speakers and module-switch-on-connect
makes them the default sink. When you remove them, there is
no guarantee that the default sink will revert to what the user
configured before. Instead PA will choose the sink which it thinks
is best. Also, if you remove the device after a shutdown, PA will
still keep it as the configured default sink and the user will loose
what was configured.

So in my opinion we should distinguish if the server changed the
default sink or the user did, though as already said above, it is
not mandatory but only nice to have.

I do not see why module-switch-on-connect would become obsolete
- it switches the default sink to a newly appeared sink and there is
nothing in these patches which does that (unless the newly appeared
sink is the configured default sink).
When a new sink appears, pa_core_update_default_sink() is called. Since
PulseAudio 11.1, bluetooth and USB sinks have higher priority than the
internal sound card, so pa_core_update_default_sink() will switch to
the BT speakers in your example. The main benefit of module-switch-on-
connect was that it moved existing streams to the new sink, but after
this patch set that's handled by the core. Therefore there's much less
need for module-switch-on-connect.

This is true, but only relevant if there is no configured default
sink. If the configured default sink is set, there will be no switch
to a newly appearing sink because the configured default sink
is prioritized over all other sinks. In this case you still need
module-switch-on-connect.
My estimation is that this is very rarely a problem.

Mh, my estimation is, that this will be the normal case. At some
point the user will set a default sink manually, and from that point
on, automatic switching will no longer work. The configured default
sink is never unset once it is set.


If you have manually selected an external sound card as the default
sink and you then plug in another external sound card, then you may or
may not want to automatically switch to the new sound card. If you
fiddle a lot with two external sound cards and you always want to use
the last one plugged in, then module-switch-on-connect is still useful,
but in this case it doesn't really matter that your old default device
choice is forgotten, because PulseAudio will anyway prefer the
remaining external sound card.
This topic is not about forgetting the last sink, but about switching
to a new sink at all. Once you manually set the default sink, it will
never switch automatically without module-switch-on-connect,
because the default sink selection process prefers the configured
default sink over all other sinks.

If you have an external sound card and you have manually selected the
internal sound card as the default sink, then module-switch-on-connect
seems like a bad idea, because you probably want to keep the internal
sound card as the default even after plugging out the external sound
card and plugging it back in. If your preference has changed, then it's
expected that you have to restate your preference by manually selecting
the external sound card.


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