On Sat, 2017-09-16 at 10:45 +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote: > On Sat, 16 Sep 2017, at 12:11 AM, Georg Chini wrote: > > On 14.09.2017 18:47, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > > > Note that even though I wrote "it's best to use 48 as the MTUs by > > > default" in the quoted mail, I changed my mind later. The choice of > > > enabling the autodetection was deliberate. The rationale is that we > > > have two bad alternatives: > > > > > > 1) Enable autodetection by default, which will cause regressions. As > > > the reports come in, the kernel should get fixed. Eventually all > > > hardware should work out of the box. > > > > > > 2) Don't enable autodetection by default. The kernel won't get fixed, > > > and hardware that requires different MTUs than 48 will never work out > > > of the box. > > > > > > To me option 1 seems worse in the long term, but if you feel > > > differently, I'm ok with going with option 2. > > > > > > > The view that the kernel will get fixed is very optimistic in my > > opinion. We already had a few cases and to my knowledge > > nothing has been fixed so far. People will just disable mtu > > autodetection and that's it. > > > > So I am fine with keeping the option disabled by default. > > Rather than break things directly, I would: > > 1. Get buy-in from BlueZ folks about actually fixing this stuff > > 2. Get a clear set of instructions for users to report problems in a way > that it would be actionable to fix > > 3. Make this off by default for a couple of releases with a call for > people to test manually > > 4. Then, make it on by default That sounds like a fine plan. Unless there's something else pending, I'll do the 11.1 release tomorrow with the current stable-11.x contents (or if you get around to it before me, you can do that too). -- Tanu https://www.patreon.com/tanuk