Hi, O Mar, 20-10-2015 ás 09:55 +0200, Wim Taymans escribiu: > The point of flat volumes was that if you're using the application > > volume slider, you don't need to hunt for two volume sliders to > > adjust > > to get the full range of volume that your hardware allows. To my > > mind, > > your proposal makes sense as an alternative to what I suggested > > only if > > we move to a model where we suggests applications do _not_ have > > volume > > sliders at all, and then design the desktop UX differently to > > provide a > > single-action way to adjust volumes. > > As an example, the shell could track what the current playing > > stream is > > based on the foreground application and volume controls (hardware > > and > > panel mixer) could track that volume and apply changes as flat > > volumes. > > So the user is always only dealing with one control, by default. (I > > just thought of this, so probably needs to be fleshed out to make > > sense, or maybe it doesn't at all.) > This is an interesting idea. Because the slider is part of the shell, > we can trust it to be user-controlled and thus give is access to the > flat-volumes of > the stream. It's like the slider from the current app in the mixer > appears in the shell task bar. > > In any case, this would work nicely with this proposal and since you > would remove the volume from the apps, making all app-controlled > volumes relative would be a good default. We won't be able to remove the volume bar from WebKit. Besides, at least in browsers, you can have several media in the same page so you do need the volume bars at the applicacion, at least in certain cases. I really like the concept of flat volumes, it eases user interaction a lot though we know it presents some other issues like malicious apps (WebKit is per spec one of them). Best regards. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: <http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/pulseaudio-discuss/attachments/20151020/d98f42f0/attachment.sig>