Le 16/09/2011 13:35, Colin Guthrie a ?crit : > 'Twas brillig, and Martin Hamant at 16/09/11 10:19 did gyre and gimble: >> Hi there, >> >> I need to setup a server that permanently plays audio by mpd thru >> pulseaudio. With or without X/gnome started. Means pulseaudio and mpd >> should start before the graphical part. >> There will be only one unique user on this box. >> >> using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, pulseaudio daemon starts thanks to the >> auto-spawn feature, when a gnome user logs in - the issue is, if I >> start mpd (or any software that use pulseaudio) before gnome, it'll >> spawn a pulseaudio daemon that belongs to the mpd user. So I get two >> pulseaudio instances: one which belongs to mpd, the other to my unique >> system user... But here I need my system user to "supervise" volumes and >> pulseaudio properties for the whole system ! >> >> if I delay mpd startup (by modifying init.d script....), all's going >> well - as it connects to the existing pulseaudio instance. But I don't >> feel good about that "strap". >> >> In a common usage you won't really notice what I describe here, but as I >> am running this ubuntu from a USB stick, there is a period of time >> before gnome starts where any program that use pulseaudio will start its >> own instance. >> >> Of course the solution that comes in mind is System Mode. Not good. >> Second: delays => not good >> So... What is the best pratice to do that ? Is running mpd as the user >> which runs the gnome session is a working /or good solution ? >> >> Thanks !! > OK, so the long term solution is for Ubuntu to switch to systemd (I'm > sure they will eventually) and then use the login lingering feature of > session management to allow certain user processes to start before the > user has logged in (this is specifically designed for situations like > sharing files via network with Rygel). > > This feature could be extended to PA but it does come with some > complications. Only the "active" user is allowed access ot audio. When > the login manager is present this is GDM (of course Ubunutu are also > potentially going to use lightdm which will be broken in all sorts of > ways until they start running a full session (which I think was the > whole reason to use it in the first place... so don't know what's going > on there). > > Now if the login manager wants to use sounds (e.g. for feedback/earcandy > etc.) then it needs to have it's own PA. > > But, regardless of the above complications, running mpd as a user > lingered processes is likely the best route forward. > > > > As a secondary solution for you now, what I'd recommend is the following: > > 1. Add your user to the "audio" group. THis means you'll always have > the right to use the audio devices on your system even when not logged > in. This comes with some drawbacks (like gdm user not being able to > access the device when you've got it open with mpd) but in a single > (real) user system, this isn't too bad. > > 2. Run mpd as you, not as an "mpd" user. > > > With this setup things should (mostly) work OK for you. > > > The alternative is to use system wide mode but then you won't get the > benefits of e.g. SHM and module loading etc. etc. without doing quite a > few tweaks. Thank you Colin for answering that fast. "run mpd as you" implies to not run mpd as a system wide service but with "manual" start. Or I would have to modify system wide /etc/mpd.conf with my user: that would work but would be a little inconsistent... In another hand, the user isn't doing anything else that playing audio files thru mpd, and recording with another app: liquidsoap which runs as 'liquidsoap' user, which is in the pulse-access group..... system sounds are disabled. The question is: do I need on the fly module loading in that context ? Thanks again !!