On Fri, 08.01.10 01:02, Mads Kiilerich (mads at kiilerich.com) wrote: > > Tanu Kaskinen wrote, On 01/07/2010 05:30 PM: > >I have recently formed a belief that in the vast majority of cases where > >the user wants to tweak the volume, the best choice is to tweak the > >stream volume, as opposed to the device volume. > > > >Device volume changing makes usually sense only when the listening > >context changes in some way: if there's some temporary background noise > >in your environment, you may want to turn the global volume up, or if > >there are other people in the same room, you may want to turn the global > >volume down not to annoy them too much. The problem is that you have to > >consistently use the device volume whenever the context changes. If you > >sometimes use the device volume and sometimes the stream volume, > >pulseaudio loses track of what you want and applications will often have > >the wrong volume when they start up (I hope you understand without > >further explanation why that happens). And I think it's very probable > >that you don't remember to always use the device volume when you should. > >The solution is to ignore the device volume and always change stream > >volumes. > > FWIW I would make the opposite conclusion. The listening condition > often changes, and thus I often and quickly want to adjust the > volume of all streams. The relative volume of the streams is > adjusted once (attenuated) to match my preferences, and after that I > don't need to make further changes. > > My solution is to ignore the stream volumes and always change the > device volume. While I wouldn't do things this extreme, I tend to lean to this side too: device volume matters more than stream volume. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4