On Fri, 01.01.10 23:13, Bill Cox (waywardgeek at gmail.com) wrote: > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Colin Guthrie <gmane at colin.guthr.ie> wrote: > 'Twas brillig, and Halim Sahin at 23/12/09 13:24 did gyre and gimble: > >> The Problem can be summarized in one sentence: > >> Pulseaudio currently breaks multiuser systems and is only useful for > >> one-user-desktop. > > > > Actually no, the exact opposite. PA works very well for multi user > > desktops. > > Hi, Col. Let me say I'm beginning to be a fan of your posts, as I > read more of them. This is probably an Ubuntu issue, but in Karmic > and Lucid, Switch User does not change the permissions for the sound > card, and the new user will be mute. It's a fairly minor bug... the > work-around is logout and log back in. > > IMO, Halim's more important comment was that PulseAudio breaks > accessibility. Speakup is either the #1 or #2 most popular Linux > accessibility program for the blind and visually impaired. It starts > at boot, as it should, so a blind person can hear what's going on. > > Gdm kills PulseAudio when a user logs in. Speakup runs forever, and > it' PulseAudio process hangs around forever, locking up the sound > card, so the user can't get any sound in Gnome. I dont see why the speech tools should be handled in any way different from the other acessibility tools we ship: in that they are part of the session. While I am no accessibility expert I am kinda sure that on Fedora all accessibility stuff is run inside the user session and the gdm pseudo-session so that the fully a11y features are available both before and after the login. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4
