Sorry... my laptop has a tendency to accidentally click, and I sent that last e-mail unfinished. Anyway, I don't believe I've evern seen multiple copies of PA running in Ubuntu work properly together, and the open bug about this on bugs.launchpad.net has had no progress or interest. If I write the CK code to kill speech-dispatcher and relaunch it when we switch user, it wont work in Ubuntu. IMO, the prudent thing to do for the Lucid release is guide blind users to be sure they only have one PA instance at a time. In particular, I'm thinking of requiring that they log in through gdm before switching to a console (for the non-CLI version). We can add speechd-up as a startup application to be automatically launched after speech-dispatcher and Orca. When I do this in Karmic, the consoles have good speakup performance. Bill
