Heya! It has been suggested that I split up the current PA mailing list into two seperate ones, for users and for developers. Now, since I'll probably have to stay subscribed to both anyway the benefit for myself would be zero. OTOH it means a bit of sysadmin work for me which I'd be happy not to have to do. So, it all depends on you: if you are a user and are annoyed by all this noisy stupid developer gibberish on this ML then make yourself heard! If you are developer and are annoyed by all those noisy stupid asking questions by users, make yourself heard too! If I get enough requests to split the ML then I'll do the necessary work. If not we'll defer this discussion until the next one asks for the split. I am listening, Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4