On Thu, 23.07.09 16:26, Colin Guthrie (gmane at colin.guthr.ie) wrote: >> I'd really like to see that other distros follow suit. The recommended >> way to disable OSS is to make sure the snd-pcm-oss/snd-seq-oss modules >> aren't loaded anymore by default when when snd-pcm is. This can be >> done by commenting a line in /etc/modprobe.d/ somewhere. Doing this >> allows folks to easily reenable OSS again but has the advantrage that >> legacy apps cannot fuck up device access for PA anymore. > > What are your thoughts on ossp progress? > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tj/ossp/ > > It seesm 2.6.31 will have the necessary stuff in it to support this > (CUSE support is in 2.6.31rc series), which should mean much friendlier > OSS app support with PA. > > I know you were a bit sceptical in the past, but has this changed? CUSE is generally not a bad idea, though it has problems, most prominently in the fact that the OSS timing model is simply too broken to make CUSE work correctly with /dev/dsp mapped to PA. Also, not sure how emulating /dev/dsp is supposed to work in a multi-user env. I think that the need for emulating OSS is simply not as big as people think. At least if I interpret the number of bugs that got posted against F11 correctly, the need for OSS really is not that big anymore. Judging from our experiment in F11 I really see no need for enabling the cuse emulation stuff in Fedora. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4