Well I have forgot how to get this Fedora 8 to know about the subject file which is a library at /usr/local/lib/. This library is not normal on F8 and reading the details of it's use it may well be critical to the pulseaudio performance. I will ask the Fedora group how to do it. Karl -- Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Linux User #450462 http://counter.li.org. PGP 4208 4D6E 595F 22B9 FF1C ECB6 4A3C 2C54 FE23 53A7