Hi, Being in the thick of things at a distro adoption level, these are the things I think that are important for pulse to be fully accepted. 1. Improvements to the pulse alsa plugin to make it more tolerant of buggy alsa clients. Yes the correct fix is to fix broken clients but if there is anything that can be done here, IMO it should as while I agree with the principle of fixing the real problem and making better apps etc. there is just too much backlash against this at the moment and it's not helping pulse gain a good reputation in some cases. 2. The alsa plugin should fall back gracefully to real hw if pulse is not running. This is a biggie IMO. Can it be done. 3. Make spawning/starting better/more reliable. Either get autospawning working nicely or make pulse auto-restart itself after a crash (not a successful shutdown tho'!). Clearly not crashing would be preferred but, hey, nothings perfect eh! With these things addressed I think we'd have much less hostility towards pulse (of course not everyone is hostile but those that are are quite good at it!!). I've not written my usual "war and peace" here so apologies if the text is not well formed or ill thought through ;) Col
