Re: [PATCH 2/2] platform/x86: firmware_attributes_class: Add test driver

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On 2025-01-09 09:37:15-0600, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> On 1/9/2025 09:17, Thomas Weißschuh wrote:
> > On 2025-01-08 11:30:12+0200, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2025, Thomas Weißschuh wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On 2025-01-07 15:18:21-0600, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> > > > > On 1/7/2025 14:50, Thomas Weißschuh wrote:
> > > > > > On 2025-01-07 13:29:08-0600, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> > > > > > > On 1/7/2025 11:05, Thomas Weißschuh wrote:
> > > > > > > > The driver showcases the use of the new subsystem API.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Thomas Weißschuh <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > >     drivers/platform/x86/Kconfig                    | 12 ++++
> > > > > > > >     drivers/platform/x86/Makefile                   |  1 +
> > > > > > > >     drivers/platform/x86/firmware_attributes_test.c | 78 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > >     3 files changed, 91 insertions(+)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/platform/x86/Kconfig b/drivers/platform/x86/Kconfig
> > > > > > > > index 0258dd879d64be389f4dd9bc309fe089f23cc798..2a0e828657d2f07074944d6c42dc204fc8825a42 100644
> > > > > > > > --- a/drivers/platform/x86/Kconfig
> > > > > > > > +++ b/drivers/platform/x86/Kconfig
> > > > > > > > @@ -1065,6 +1065,18 @@ source "drivers/platform/x86/x86-android-tablets/Kconfig"
> > > > > > > >     config FW_ATTR_CLASS
> > > > > > > >     	tristate
> > > > > > > > +config FW_ATTR_TEST
> > > > > > > > +	tristate "Firmware attribute test driver"
> > > > > > > > +	select FW_ATTR_CLASS
> > > > > > > > +	help
> > > > > > > > +	  This driver provides a test user of the firmware attribute subsystem.
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +	  An instance is created at /sys/class/firmware-attributes/test/
> > > > > > > > +	  container various example attributes.
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +	  To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the module
> > > > > > > > +	  will be called firmware_attributes_test.
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I think if you're going to be introducing a test driver it should be
> > > > > > > compliant to what's in sysfs-class-firmware-attributes so that when it's
> > > > > > > inevitably copy/pasted we end up with higher quality drivers.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That is you need at a minimum 'type', 'current_value', 'default_value',
> > > > > > > 'display_name' and 'display_name_language_code'.  Then individual types
> > > > > > > employ additional requirements.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I see 'type', 'current_value', and 'default_value, but I don't see
> > > > > > > 'display_name' or 'display_name_language_code' here.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Furthermore as this is a "string" attribute you're supposed to also have a
> > > > > > > "max_length" and "min_length".
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Agreed that more examples are better.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But are these attributes really mandatory?
> > > > > > "This attribute is mandatory" is only specified for "type" and>
> > > > > "current_value".
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ah wow, I had thought they were, but you're right they're not!
> > > > > 
> > > > > > While "possible_values" certainly looks necessary for "enumeration",
> > > > > > "min_length" for "strings" does so much less.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Even if they're not mandatory, I think it's better to include them for the
> > > > > same copy/paste reason I mentioned though.
> > > > 
> > > > Thinking about it some more, which attributes should all be included?
> > > > Having all of them in there could motivate driver authors to implement
> > > > them all even it would mean filling in random values.
> > > > The provided examples can already be copied-and-pasted and slightly
> > > > adapted to add more attributes.
> > > 
> > > Can't you like add comments to the optional ones to reduce the incentive
> > > to fill them with random junk as it's a lot easier to just delete them than
> > > generating some random junk. So if a developer is unsure what to do a
> > > comment telling something is optional would help to lean towards 'I can
> > > safely delete this'?
> > 
> > That would be possible. But I'm still not convinced.
> > If driver authors can't be expected to know how to implement their own
> > sysfs attribute groups from the similar provided examples as needed, we
> > would have to provide example code for sysfs attributes of all firmware
> > attributes. And that would be a lot of them.
> > 
> > Also the attributes themselves would be highly repetitive. The
> > interesting logic would be how to wire it up the the rest of the driver,
> > and the example code can't provide copy-paste code for that.
> 
> Thinking about it a bit more what do you think about providing a macro
> helper for drivers to use?  Think about how we have macros for pm ops for
> example and drivers can optionally populate all fields with callbacks.

This is what I tried, but came to the conclusion that it would be very
complex.

> A macro for "enumeration" attributes, another for "string" attributes, and
> another for "integer" attributes.
> 
> For string it could have optional values .min_length and .max_length,

Then we need a flags field to track if the an attribute has either of
these fields, because 0 is a valid value.
And macros to initialize a static struct of it, with any combination of
optional attributes. And more macros to do the same for dynamically
allocated structs.

> For enumeration it can have a callback that gets you a pointer to a string
> of possible options.

Callbacks would be better as there is a clear value when a attribute is
missing.

> For integer attributes it can have a field for scalar value etc.

Same as for .min_length and .max_length.


Let me try again with callbacks.




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