On 05.03.19 09:23, Arnd Bergmann wrote: (CC'ing kbuild maintainer + list, hoping for better ideas :) > No, that wouldn't be good here. In effect that means that with INPUT disabled, > most of the x86 platform drivers are disabled, until you enable the > PCENGINES_APU2 symbol, which then ends up showing all the other > symbols at once, and changing them to their default states. Okay, I didn't consider the defaults. Maybe we should talk about step by step getting away from these defaults (perhaps move them to the defconfigs ?) on a broader scale ... but yeah, that's far out of scope now. So, you've conviced me. Add me to Reviewed-By to your patches and forget about mine. > Another problem is that you likely run into circular dependency chains > after trying that. The best practice for select vs. depends are hmm, if circular deps happen, wouldn't that mean we've got some deeper problems in here ? IMHO, dependencies should always form a DAG (except for some really rare cases). Do you recall any actual problem w/ input vs gpio vs. drivers ? I'd like to have a closer look at it. > 1. try to use 'depends on' if you can Well, this has the unpleasant side effect that we often have to enable a lot of things, just to even see the individual driver. For people who just wanna configure a kernel for their board, this is a bit nasty. But, okay, I'm going to do this w/ my own tool - I've written a small tool that allows easy kernel reconfiguration on a higher level: you can just pick some board templates and enable high level features like eth, gpu, etc - it automatically creates a .config for you. I'm going announce it on lkml soon. --mtx -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult Free software and Linux embedded engineering info@xxxxxxxxx -- +49-151-27565287