On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 11:23:05PM +0200, Gabriele Mazzotta wrote: > On Thursday 30 April 2015 09:44:29 Pali Rohár wrote: > > On Thursday 30 April 2015 14:06:27 Alex Hung wrote: > > > Method ABRT is to be used by driver to disable BIOS handling of radio > > > button. So the changes in behaviours observed by Gabriele is expected. > > > I have seen other systems behave the same way. > > > > > > > Right, that after that ARBT call operating system get full control over > > radio devices and ACPI/BIOS will not automatically enable/disable them. > > I think this is OK. > > > > But for that we need also support for manually enable/disable radio > > devices and code for this support is missing. Or do DELLABCE/RBTN acpi > > devices somehow support enabling/disabling it via system/kernel request? > > > > > I do also see firmware only sends Notify(RBTN, 0x80) and no hard block > > > whether ABRT(1) is called or not. Thus keycode are the only option on > > > those machines. > > > > > > > Key is ok, but we *must* have ability to hard block it via some > > ACPI/WMI/BIOS/FW/etc... call. Otherwise ARBT(1) is no go as users should > > be able to enable/disable their radio devices (bluetooth for powersave) > > Does it really matter in the end? As I understand it, radio devices are > off either way. As a point of reference for consideration, we recently dropped the Thinkpad hardware mute button because it seriously complicated everything in what appears to be a similar sort of situation. By eliminating the hardware mute and relying purely on software mute, we were able to provide a much more consistently functional driver. Also note that this driver provided a "software_mute" module parameter to allow the user to control this. I believe this provides some relevant precedent for your consideration. I don't want to add parameters casually, but it could be one is warranted here. -- Darren Hart Intel Open Source Technology Center -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe platform-driver-x86" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html