Network call quality using PJSUA

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Hey Vinay,

the issue you mentioned last might be related the information based upon
RTCP and I don't know how PJSIP is updating those values - if only on
incoming packet than a lost packet is only reflected, when the next
arrives...

Can one of the PJSIP developers comment on that?

---
Dennis Guse


On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Vinay <vinay.nair at novanet.net> wrote:

> The problem with packet loss was that in case the network goes down the
> packet loss still shows 0, and after it comes back it starts reflecting
> packet loss even when the call is connected with great call quality. Even
> RTT is inconclusive, jitter seems like the best bet.
>
> Thanks for the tip though, have to still optimise for edge.
>  --
> Vinay Nair
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>   1. Re: Network call quality using PJSUA (Olle Frimanson)
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> Hi , Vinay
>
> you have the answer in front of you ;-)
>
> Usually it's a combo of RTT, packet loss and jitter.
>
> And a tip could be don't use 67 kbps on edge
>
> BR/Olle
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> Fr?n: pjsip [mailto:pjsip-bounces at lists.pjsip.org] F?r Vinay
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> Skickat: den 31 januari 2014 07:27
> Till: pjsip at lists.pjsip.org
> ?mne: Re: [pjsip] Network call quality using PJSUA
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> Thanks! What I am looking for is to display the call quality while the
> user is on the call, like what Skype and Viber do.
>
> I have implemented a method to call pjsua_call_dump every 3 seconds.
>
> Here are two dumps, one on a good WiFi connection and one on edge:
>
> 1) This was on a good wifi connection:
>    #0 audio opus @48kHz, sendrecv, peer=10.10.86.7:48819
>       SRTP status: Not active Crypto-suite: (null)
>       ICE role: Controlled, state: Negotiation Success, comp_cnt: 2
>          [0]: L:203.153.53.130:63428 (s) --> R:203.153.53.130:49543 (s)
>          [1]: L:203.153.53.130:49457 (s) --> R:203.153.53.130:58433 (s)
>       RX pt=124, last update:00h:00m:03.702s ago
>          total 401pkt 51.3KB (67.4KB +IP hdr) @avg=49.5Kbps/64.9Kbps
>          pkt loss=0 (0.0%), discrd=0 (0.0%), dup=0 (0.0%), reord=0 (0.0%)
>                (msec)    min     avg     max     last    dev
>          loss period:   0.000   0.000   0.000   0.000   0.000
>          jitter     :   0.000   5.680   9.437   7.562   1.318
>       TX pt=124, ptime=20, last update:00h:00m:03.110s ago
>          total 416pkt 53.3KB (70.0KB +IP hdr) @avg=51.4Kbps/67.4Kbps
>          pkt loss=0 (0.0%), dup=0 (0.0%), reorder=0 (0.0%)
>                (msec)    min     avg     max     last    dev
>          loss period:   0.000   0.000   0.000   0.000   0.000
>          jitter     :   0.000   3.000   6.000   6.000   3.000
>       RTT msec      :  12.268  12.268  12.268  12.268   0.000
>
> 2) This dump was on edge:
>                    Call time: 00h:00m:09s, 1st res in 1601 ms, conn in
> 2775ms
>                    #0 audio opus @48kHz, sendrecv, peer=10.10.86.7:48396
>                      SRTP status: Not active Crypto-suite: (null)
>                      ICE role: Controlled, state: Negotiation Success,
> comp_cnt: 2
>                          [0]: L:123.63.154.36:1462 (s) --> R:
> 203.153.53.130:50353 (s)
>                          [1]: L:123.63.154.36:13584 (s) --> R:
> 203.153.53.130:60799 (s)
>                      RX pt=124, last update:00h:00m:05.059s ago
>                          total 263pkt 33.7KB (44.2KB +IP hdr)
> @avg=26.5Kbps/34.8Kbps
>                          pkt loss=2 (0.8%), discrd=0 (0.0%), dup=0 (0.0%),
> reord=0 (0.0%)
>                                (msec)    min     avg     max     last
>    dev
>                          loss period:  20.000  20.000  20.000  20.000
>   0.000
>                          jitter     :   1.229  41.802 121.000  32.895
>  14.663
>                      TX pt=124, ptime=20, last update:00h:00m:00.363s ago
>                          total 508pkt 65.1KB (85.4KB +IP hdr)
> @avg=51.1Kbps/67.1Kbps
>                          pkt loss=1 (0.2%), dup=0 (0.0%), reorder=0 (0.0%)
>                                (msec)    min     avg     max     last
>    dev
>                          loss period:  20.000  20.000  20.000  20.000
>   0.000
>                          jitter     :   0.000   6.219  12.437  12.437
>   6.218
>                      RTT msec      : 4229.000 4229.000 4229.000 4229.000
>   0.000
>
> I have been reading the dumps, packet loss does not give an accurate
> picture, what parameters do I use to get a good idea of the ongoing call
> quality.
>
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>  1. Re: Network call quality using PJSUA (Dennis Guse)
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> Hi,
>
> I am not aware of one... Are you just interested in packet-loss rates (also
> include jitter drops)?
> For this, you could regularly call pjsua_call_dump Y and parse the output
> manually.
>
> Actually, I would love to have a callback in pjsua that is reporting packet
> loss in a regular basis (like one time per second).
>
> Just my 2 cents....
>
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> ---
> Dennis Guse
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>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Vinay <vinay.nair at novanet.net<mailto:
> vinay.nair at novanet.net>> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to display a network quality indicator while the user is on
> call using pjsua.
>
> --
> Vinay Nair
> vinay.nair at novanet.net<mailto:vinay.nair at novanet.net>
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