Cannot hear voice with symmetric NAT and STUN

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Hi, I have Kamailio as SIP server and RTP server. Client is PJSIP.

I read that STUN is for non-symmetric NAT, and RTP server is for symmetric
NAT.

Supposed A calls B.

If A, B both use symmetric NAT and STUN, they cannot hear each other
If A or B use non-symmetric NAT and NOT using STUN, they cannot hear each
other.

Why is that?

I read http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-takeda-symmetric-nat-traversal-00.txtfor
Prediction
Failure, is that related to this problem ?

-- 
Khoa Pham
HCMC University of Science
Faculty of Information Technology
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