On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:26 AM, Alan J. Bond <alan.bond at wintology.com> wrote: > Benny, > > A link to much more useful stuff ... > > http://miniupnp.free.fr/ > Thanks for all the pointers, Alan. I think that should cover everything to get us going (once we decide to). I've been contemplating about uPnP too recently, and I think it complements ice/stun/turn combo pretty well (that is if a client is behind uPnP, then it could just skip ice/stun/turn altogether and go with uPnP only; this could save the session from using turn relay, and also to make the client more interoperable with more endpoints since only few implementations can do ice). And thanks to the links, uPnP doesn't look too complicated anymore (as with pjsip tradition, we like to implement things from scratch;-) ), or at least it looks more feasible now. So definitely this would be something that we'll look very closely once we're done with the mandatory duty to release v1.0 as soon as possible. Cheers Benny