Yep I've echo'd the fields because I populate the form with them and they echo fine they are there they just won't go back into the db, and just those two...the others go in as a new order no problem. I would attach the whole page but I don't think the list allows it, but if anyone is interested in seeing it I'm MORE than happy to send it, I've been stumped on it for two days now, two days, two fields..argh. Thanks Terion
