Hi fellow php late night peoples.... Thanks for everyone's help the last couple of days... I have learned so much. The best way to learn this stuff...is simple trial and error... and thanks for good old Goooogle! My problem tonight is very simple. I just don't know what command I want to use. I want to echo text in a page then take a delay then echo more text/images to the same page. I tried the sleep command with the number of seconds, but it don't load the page to the sleep timer is done. any ideas of what php command I can use? Matt