Let's say I have a database and I want to find the position of a row when it is ordered by a specific column before a sort: UNIQUE ID | SCORE 000000001 | 100 000000002 | 50 000000003 | 30 000000004 | 80 000000005 | 50 after sort: UNIQUE ID | SCORE 000000001 | 100 000000004 | 80 000000002 | 50 000000005 | 50 000000003 | 30 is it posible to find the position of 000000004 with a query or mysql function? Normally I'd just 'SELECT unique_id FROM table ORDER DESC' then loop through the results looking for a matching id, however my table contains thousands of entries, and it's simply not possible do do it that way. Thanks Mike