For example, say I have a variable $mytext = 'what up doc'. Now I want to add the text 'not much' to the end of this variable. But I want to place a return or linefeed after the original text so when I echo $mytext it looks like: what up doc not much I tried: $mytext = 'what up doc'; $mytext .= chr(10) . 'not much'; I also tried chr(13) 10 is linefeed and 13 is carriage return. Thanks for your previous help as well. Doug -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php