Thank you for your help Martin, I am aware of the seperation stuff you are talking. There is a much more professional term for that 'Design Patterns' use in JAVA (I tell you as a JAVA professional).. I am also aware of need for code and design seperation.. What I meant here is that NOT every project needs this! If you are on a small project it is much easier to write straight forward, without making this hard seperation.. By the way thanks for "HTML_Template_IT " advice.. I will check that out. If you have any other advice I am waiting.. What do you think guys how it is better to seperate PHP code from Design (HTML)? Regards, Muhammed Mamedov turkmenweb.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Marques" <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Muhammed Mamedov" <mm@xxxxxxxxxx>; Cc: "Ignatius Reilly" <ignatius.reilly@xxxxxxx>; "phpdb" <php-db@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:21 PM Subject: Re: multi-language site > Mensaje citado por Muhammed Mamedov <mmamedov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > Thank you for your comments Ignatius. > > (just to note) : I do not agree that all projects SHOULD require CLEAR > > sepeartion of code and appearance. > > Let me disagree with you! :-) > I a multi-tiered design yuo have a client layer, a server layer (this should be the > PHP pages on the server), and the database layer (simply for storage). > > Now, the server layer is easier to maintain if you have it devided in a buissness > layer and a presentation layer. > > The presentation layer should have programs that print the results. > > Now, to make it even easier to maintain your code, abstraction of HTML code from the > PHP code is the best way to go. It make the PHP more readable, and the HTML easy to > edit by non programmers. > > > Further on this issue: > > Consider that there are lots of dynamic stuff like "news", and there are > > thousands of users and all data is stored in a database. Currently data is > > stored as a simple text. And I want to provide users (or their graphic > > editors) to display these "news" on their page in the way they like. So, to > > achieve this task I need a nice seperation of code and design. We may not > > achieve a 100% seperate work, but at least a graphical designer (who doesn't > > know any PHP) has to be able to develop a new design for his customers (our > > user) with ease. > > I think you should point to HTML_Template_IT (pear.php.net) > > -- > select 'mmarques' || '@' || 'unl.edu.ar' AS email; > --------------------------------------------------------- > Martín Marqués | Programador, DBA > Centro de Telemática | Administrador > Universidad Nacional > del Litoral > --------------------------------------------------------- > -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php