Jim, I don't think that matters. One can escape into PHP in several ways (depending on the php.ini config of course) 1. <?php 2. <? 3. <script language="php" 4. <% 5. <?= (to echo something right away) Anyway, I tried that and it still doesn't work. ---> Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: Jim Hunter [mailto:jim@epiuniverse.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 2:59 PM To: jvilla@isdesigndev.com Subject: RE: Define() Looking at your source you are still missing the php in the script. it has to look like: <form action="<?php echo CTL_HOME_ROOT ?>" method="POST"> note the php ||| add this and try it again. Jim