Argh !!!!!!!! HOW does one check for an array being empty from a form field?????????? Tried a billion different things and NOTHING works!!!! I've tried: if ($products == "\n") { echo "hello"; } else { echo "bye"; } if ($products == "") { echo "hello"; } else { echo "bye"; } if (empty($products)) { echo "hello"; } else { echo "bye"; } if (!isset($products)) { echo "hello"; } else { echo "bye"; } if (count($products) == 0) { echo "hello"; } else { echo "bye"; } NOTHING works!!! Any help.. puuulease? Aaron