I just realized that my post was nearly understandable.. Here is a rewrite! :) Gavin, One way to approach this is to manually insert a record with the id that you want to start at. Just add a dummy record with the id ("49" for example) and then the next records will have an id of "50", "51", and so on. -- Mark Nenadov, Freelance Software Developer web: www.freelance-developer.com e-mail mark@freelance-developer.com -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php