How do you mean unusable by spammers? If i'm a spammer i can go to your link and manually enter information, you really can't stop from that. You can however stop spammers that are using utilities to auto submit information. If you want to stop from auto submits from programs, check into _SERVER['HTTP_REFER'] (I think thats the variable) make sure the submission came from your http://www.011005.com/230106 page, since auto submissions will be coming from a program that should work out for you. Hope that helps a bit Another option, you could check the existence of the email address submitted. There are scripts that will auto connect to email servers and check the existence of the account. One more option is to check for words or phrases in the message area like a bad word filter but filter for spammer words. Thank you, Ryan Sexton On Jan 30, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Chris wrote: Hi all, I'm desperately trying to get a php form to not be used by spammers, I don't want anything to do with javascript or captcha's. Can anyone please let me know what changes I would need to make to the code on the link below? If I can view the *complete* resultant code somehow, that would be great, otherwise I'm not sure where the code goes ;-) Here's the page: http://www.011005.com/230106 Here's the code: http://www.011005.com/230106.phps Any help is very much appreciated. Chris. PHP Data object relational mapping generator http://www.metastorage.net/ Yahoo! Groups Links PHP Data object relational mapping generator http://www.metastorage.net/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/php-objects/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: php-objects-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/