hi -- again. still experimenting with initial composer/laravel cmd. a test cmd in the test dir /var/www/html sudo -u www-data composer -create-project --prefer-dist laravel/laravel foo --seems to produce a package/project.. whereas: sudo -u www-data composer -create-project --prefer-dist laravel/alaravel foo sudo -u www-data composer -create-project --prefer-dist laravel/laravela foo both gen errs... so.. i did sudo -w www-data composer show -a and hey.... i get a list of foo/xxx so I assume this ia a complete global list of apps projects/packages??? not sure of versioning.. if what i did is "correct", can i assume that "laravel/laravel" when creating a new project is basically setting up the project with the "laravel" project?? but why laravel/laravel??? why the two "laravel" how would find out what the "sub items" of laravel are, and what their functions are? my searching hasn't turned up the information yet.. thanks