Hi all, Just wanted to get some thoughts from others on the list. Recently I've been trying to avoid using any PHP code at all in my views at all, not even an if statement or for loop. The general idea is that I want to make it as easy as possible for developers who do no PHP at all (I work with a lot of them) to be able to work more easily. So far I've been doing this by moving the little logic bits that might otherwise end up in the views to controllers or the template engine to handle, and use a basic templating system that the frontend developers can use. What are peoples' thoughts on this? Am I going down the wrong path with wanting to keep my views HTML-only, or is this something that any of you are trying to do? I'm finding the benefits only when working with others in a team, otherwise I've no problem with PHP in views myself. As an aside, it has made things slightly easier when it comes to using CodeSniffer to analyse code quality, because a lot of the tests were throwing false positives because of the mix of HTML and PHP in the view files. Keeping things separate now means that an error in a view is a true error. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php