Hi James, Ok, so I tried taking your advice. And set the mode and group accordingly: [root@web1:~] #ls -lh /var/www/php-webdev/orders/orders.txt -rw-r--r--. 1 apache users 0 Dec 27 21:47 /var/www/php-webdev/orders/orders.txt However the result didn't change. I get the same failure when trying to write to the file: *Warning*: fopen(/var/www/php-webdev/orders/orders.txt): failed to open stream: Permission denied in */var/www/php-webdev/ch01/processorder.php* on line *50* Thanks Tim On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 1:27 PM, James Moe <jimoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 12/28/2014 11:03 AM, Tim Dunphy wrote: > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 apache apache 0 Dec 27 21:47 > > /var/www/php-webdev/orders/orders.txt > > > Is there a reason why it is marked as an executable? Such files are > normally 0644 or 0664. > > Another option is to set the group to "users" and add apache to that group. > > -- > James Moe > jmm-list at sohnen-moe dot com > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- GPG me!! gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys F186197B